1 00:00:14,190 --> 00:00:21,360 [Music] 2 00:00:26,029 --> 00:00:24,009 [Applause] 3 00:00:28,849 --> 00:00:26,039 be normal 4 00:00:31,009 --> 00:00:28,859 this is the saucer life a podcast in 5 00:00:32,749 --> 00:00:31,019 which we examine Concepts events or 6 00:00:35,750 --> 00:00:32,759 people orbiting the world of flying 7 00:00:38,870 --> 00:00:35,760 saucers few preconceptions snark when 8 00:00:40,970 --> 00:00:38,880 Justified no belief no debunking today 9 00:00:44,330 --> 00:00:40,980 we are going to be looking at the 10 00:00:46,190 --> 00:00:44,340 contact experiences of Robert Renaud who 11 00:00:49,369 --> 00:00:46,200 began having contact with space beings 12 00:00:51,170 --> 00:00:49,379 in 1961 and whose contacts continued up 13 00:00:53,690 --> 00:00:51,180 into the 21st century 14 00:00:55,729 --> 00:00:53,700 now I may be wrong and I'm sure some of 15 00:00:58,450 --> 00:00:55,739 you will correct me if I am but this 16 00:01:01,369 --> 00:00:58,460 might be the longest stretch of 17 00:01:03,590 --> 00:01:01,379 contactism out there for one person to 18 00:01:05,390 --> 00:01:03,600 have all of these encounters now my 19 00:01:07,850 --> 00:01:05,400 initial plan was to talk about a UFO 20 00:01:09,950 --> 00:01:07,860 writer named John Dean but as I got into 21 00:01:12,289 --> 00:01:09,960 Dean's book most of what he was doing 22 00:01:14,330 --> 00:01:12,299 was talking about renaud's experiences 23 00:01:17,450 --> 00:01:14,340 so I moved Renaud up in the schedule 24 00:01:19,910 --> 00:01:17,460 from I think February and decided we 25 00:01:21,770 --> 00:01:19,920 should just cover him right now and as 26 00:01:24,170 --> 00:01:21,780 has been the case with several of our 27 00:01:26,030 --> 00:01:24,180 topics here in 2022 this is going to be 28 00:01:27,890 --> 00:01:26,040 a multi-part story because I think 29 00:01:30,830 --> 00:01:27,900 that's really the only way to give 30 00:01:34,609 --> 00:01:30,840 renaud's encounters the space they need 31 00:01:37,249 --> 00:01:34,619 because there is a lot here even even 32 00:01:38,330 --> 00:01:37,259 focusing on the high points there is a 33 00:01:39,649 --> 00:01:38,340 lot here 34 00:01:42,130 --> 00:01:39,659 um really 35 00:01:48,350 --> 00:01:42,140 a lot as we'll see 36 00:01:52,730 --> 00:01:51,530 so who was Robert Renaud Bob or not 37 00:01:54,830 --> 00:01:52,740 there isn't much biographical 38 00:01:56,810 --> 00:01:54,840 information out there but and this is 39 00:01:59,569 --> 00:01:56,820 unfortunate it appears that he passed 40 00:02:02,050 --> 00:01:59,579 away a few months ago in September 2022 41 00:02:05,450 --> 00:02:02,060 and his obituary gives us some 42 00:02:07,370 --> 00:02:05,460 non-saucer background Robert Paul Renaud 43 00:02:09,710 --> 00:02:07,380 was 79 and lived in Washington 44 00:02:11,449 --> 00:02:09,720 Massachusetts when he passed away he was 45 00:02:14,210 --> 00:02:11,459 born in Pittsfield Massachusetts on 46 00:02:16,670 --> 00:02:14,220 September 10 1942 his parents were 47 00:02:19,369 --> 00:02:16,680 Walter and Lillian Renaud he attended 48 00:02:21,470 --> 00:02:19,379 Notre Dame elementary school and was a 49 00:02:23,869 --> 00:02:21,480 1960 graduate of St Joseph's High School 50 00:02:25,550 --> 00:02:23,879 for 30 years he was an electrician for 51 00:02:28,130 --> 00:02:25,560 General Electric he was a ham radio 52 00:02:30,110 --> 00:02:28,140 operator and enjoyed computers and 53 00:02:31,970 --> 00:02:30,120 electronics he was a former member of 54 00:02:35,089 --> 00:02:31,980 Christian Assembly Church and he liked 55 00:02:37,729 --> 00:02:35,099 stock car drag racing and bowling he 56 00:02:40,550 --> 00:02:37,739 survived by a son two daughters a sister 57 00:02:42,229 --> 00:02:40,560 seven grandchildren and a niece and a 58 00:02:43,190 --> 00:02:42,239 nephew he was pre-deceased by his 59 00:02:46,729 --> 00:02:43,200 brother 60 00:02:49,790 --> 00:02:46,739 a grandson and his former wife Marilyn 61 00:02:51,830 --> 00:02:49,800 Reeves so renaud's account of his 62 00:02:54,550 --> 00:02:51,840 contact experiences originally appeared 63 00:02:58,369 --> 00:02:54,560 in the 1960s in Gabriel Greene's 64 00:03:00,410 --> 00:02:58,379 newsletter and these were sort of sort 65 00:03:02,509 --> 00:03:00,420 of rejigged and and reworked and 66 00:03:08,270 --> 00:03:02,519 appeared in various places over the 67 00:03:11,750 --> 00:03:09,830 in the wee hours of the early morning 68 00:03:13,790 --> 00:03:11,760 when the first golden rays of the sun 69 00:03:15,710 --> 00:03:13,800 are still probing the Black Veil of a 70 00:03:17,869 --> 00:03:15,720 cold December night for an opening 71 00:03:19,910 --> 00:03:17,879 through which to illuminate the world I 72 00:03:21,649 --> 00:03:19,920 held my ninth radio communication with 73 00:03:23,809 --> 00:03:21,659 people from another world 74 00:03:25,430 --> 00:03:23,819 for a few fleeting hours I was 75 00:03:27,530 --> 00:03:25,440 privileged to share once more in the 76 00:03:30,110 --> 00:03:27,540 wisdom and kindly understanding of a 77 00:03:31,729 --> 00:03:30,120 race wiser by far than we for these 78 00:03:33,890 --> 00:03:31,739 moments of light in a world of Darkness 79 00:03:36,410 --> 00:03:33,900 these beneficent beings from a planet 80 00:03:37,970 --> 00:03:36,420 far outside our own Sun System discussed 81 00:03:40,789 --> 00:03:37,980 with me matters of importance to myself 82 00:03:41,990 --> 00:03:40,799 to America and to the people of the 83 00:03:44,149 --> 00:03:42,000 entire Earth 84 00:03:45,649 --> 00:03:44,159 I am however ahead of myself and 85 00:03:49,070 --> 00:03:45,659 therefore shall start at the beginning 86 00:03:53,390 --> 00:03:49,080 which as a popular song would say is a 87 00:03:58,729 --> 00:03:55,910 so we got some nice misdirections some 88 00:04:01,070 --> 00:03:58,739 nice in media Ray sort of beginning in 89 00:04:03,589 --> 00:04:01,080 the middle and a Sound of Music 90 00:04:07,430 --> 00:04:03,599 reference so the first actual contact 91 00:04:08,869 --> 00:04:07,440 happened on July 8 1961. Renard was 92 00:04:11,750 --> 00:04:08,879 messing around with a shortwave radio 93 00:04:13,970 --> 00:04:11,760 set trying to pick up the BBC he tunes 94 00:04:16,189 --> 00:04:13,980 into the station turns down and starts 95 00:04:18,110 --> 00:04:16,199 reading a book about astronomy a few 96 00:04:20,150 --> 00:04:18,120 minutes later he hears a beeping sound 97 00:04:22,850 --> 00:04:20,160 from his radio and he's annoyed at first 98 00:04:28,969 --> 00:04:22,860 but then he hears a voice that he 99 00:04:34,490 --> 00:04:31,189 Bob we'd like you to stay on this 100 00:04:38,030 --> 00:04:36,469 Renault says this hit him right between 101 00:04:40,490 --> 00:04:38,040 the eyes and it took him a few minutes 102 00:04:45,530 --> 00:04:40,500 to realize what was going on after which 103 00:04:50,270 --> 00:04:47,629 Bob my associates and I have spent long 104 00:04:51,590 --> 00:04:50,280 hours deliberating on this contact we 105 00:04:53,810 --> 00:04:51,600 have decided that it would be to our 106 00:04:55,790 --> 00:04:53,820 advantage if we carried out our plans so 107 00:04:58,010 --> 00:04:55,800 as a result of this I am now speaking to 108 00:05:00,110 --> 00:04:58,020 you in the first of what we hope will be 109 00:05:02,210 --> 00:05:00,120 a long series of fruitful Ventures into 110 00:05:04,430 --> 00:05:02,220 the world of knowledge you are our first 111 00:05:06,590 --> 00:05:04,440 contact with the people of Your World 112 00:05:08,270 --> 00:05:06,600 we have tried previously but no results 113 00:05:09,350 --> 00:05:08,280 were ever obtained that were considered 114 00:05:11,330 --> 00:05:09,360 successful 115 00:05:13,610 --> 00:05:11,340 these previous attempts were telepathic 116 00:05:15,469 --> 00:05:13,620 at the time we felt that since our lack 117 00:05:17,810 --> 00:05:15,479 of knowledge of English was very evident 118 00:05:19,790 --> 00:05:17,820 mental images would be the only way to 119 00:05:21,710 --> 00:05:19,800 communicate however it appears we are 120 00:05:23,390 --> 00:05:21,720 wrong on this note you have not 121 00:05:25,730 --> 00:05:23,400 developed your mental facilities to the 122 00:05:27,170 --> 00:05:25,740 level of which they are capable some of 123 00:05:29,210 --> 00:05:27,180 your people have had telepathic 124 00:05:31,430 --> 00:05:29,220 abilities but your Society in 125 00:05:32,990 --> 00:05:31,440 intolerance has branded them lunatics or 126 00:05:35,390 --> 00:05:33,000 harmless Screwballs to use the term 127 00:05:37,490 --> 00:05:35,400 common in your daily speech therefore to 128 00:05:39,170 --> 00:05:37,500 contact you weeks of research had to be 129 00:05:41,270 --> 00:05:39,180 done on the English language 130 00:05:43,370 --> 00:05:41,280 spoken word had to be correlated with 131 00:05:45,350 --> 00:05:43,380 the mental image we felt this would not 132 00:05:47,210 --> 00:05:45,360 be difficult since we had but to monitor 133 00:05:50,510 --> 00:05:47,220 your radio and telescreen Transmissions 134 00:05:52,610 --> 00:05:50,520 to the scent we were however unaware of 135 00:05:54,529 --> 00:05:52,620 the extensive use of recordings in both 136 00:05:56,270 --> 00:05:54,539 these media and likewise did not 137 00:05:59,090 --> 00:05:56,280 consider that these recordings unlike 138 00:06:02,510 --> 00:05:59,100 ours did not retain telepathic as well 139 00:06:04,189 --> 00:06:02,520 as audio visual impulses for 10 days we 140 00:06:06,529 --> 00:06:04,199 monitored every available frequency 141 00:06:08,210 --> 00:06:06,539 using your language but this achieved 142 00:06:10,969 --> 00:06:08,220 nothing because her analyzers were 143 00:06:13,490 --> 00:06:10,979 effective only with simultaneous sensory 144 00:06:15,710 --> 00:06:13,500 extra sensory stimuli the situation 145 00:06:17,510 --> 00:06:15,720 seemed hopeless we could not land and 146 00:06:19,490 --> 00:06:17,520 contact directly due to atmospheric 147 00:06:21,770 --> 00:06:19,500 differences and our long-range studies 148 00:06:23,510 --> 00:06:21,780 of language studies hampered by the lack 149 00:06:25,550 --> 00:06:23,520 of the aforementioned impulses in the 150 00:06:27,950 --> 00:06:25,560 Transmissions were getting nowhere at 151 00:06:29,930 --> 00:06:27,960 light speed in desperation we chose to 152 00:06:32,170 --> 00:06:29,940 drop special sensing devices into your 153 00:06:34,550 --> 00:06:32,180 midst these would give us the necessary 154 00:06:36,710 --> 00:06:34,560 psychosensory impulses with the 155 00:06:41,210 --> 00:06:36,720 corresponding sounds to plant these 156 00:06:45,890 --> 00:06:43,309 the combination of words necessary 157 00:06:49,070 --> 00:06:45,900 psychosensory was actually pretty 158 00:06:52,370 --> 00:06:49,080 difficult for me to to get out the first 159 00:06:54,469 --> 00:06:52,380 three or four times The Voice then goes 160 00:06:57,290 --> 00:06:54,479 into detail about how they set this all 161 00:07:00,590 --> 00:06:57,300 up and there's lots of technical stuff 162 00:07:02,629 --> 00:07:00,600 but Renaud is attentive enough to us as 163 00:07:04,550 --> 00:07:02,639 his audience to say for those not 164 00:07:06,710 --> 00:07:04,560 technically oriented skip the next 165 00:07:09,170 --> 00:07:06,720 couple paragraphs and I really 166 00:07:11,749 --> 00:07:09,180 appreciate him realizing that some of us 167 00:07:13,909 --> 00:07:11,759 might not care about some of that stuff 168 00:07:15,529 --> 00:07:13,919 and after the scientific details are 169 00:07:18,830 --> 00:07:15,539 done with including the wonderful line 170 00:07:20,689 --> 00:07:18,840 we realized that a monotonous beeping 171 00:07:23,330 --> 00:07:20,699 would be the most demanding of attention 172 00:07:26,089 --> 00:07:23,340 we now know that our decision was 173 00:07:32,029 --> 00:07:26,099 correct I I just love that we get to the 174 00:07:36,409 --> 00:07:34,490 our main concern now is the possibility 175 00:07:38,809 --> 00:07:36,419 that your people will engage themselves 176 00:07:40,550 --> 00:07:38,819 in a nuclear war which would inevitably 177 00:07:42,650 --> 00:07:40,560 mean the end of your race 178 00:07:44,749 --> 00:07:42,660 we of other worlds cannot stop you from 179 00:07:46,490 --> 00:07:44,759 doing this our codes do not allow 180 00:07:48,230 --> 00:07:46,500 interference in the lives of men to the 181 00:07:49,969 --> 00:07:48,240 point of forceful action 182 00:07:51,350 --> 00:07:49,979 nowhere in the Civilized Galaxy are 183 00:07:53,930 --> 00:07:51,360 there any races that would impose 184 00:07:55,670 --> 00:07:53,940 themselves on any race to the extent of 185 00:07:58,070 --> 00:07:55,680 actually altering conditions on a world 186 00:08:00,409 --> 00:07:58,080 without the expressed consent of that 187 00:08:02,390 --> 00:08:00,419 world's inhabitants therefore we can 188 00:08:05,210 --> 00:08:02,400 only warn you that your present course 189 00:08:07,249 --> 00:08:05,220 can only lead in One Direction ultimate 190 00:08:09,110 --> 00:08:07,259 destruction of your people we are 191 00:08:11,689 --> 00:08:09,120 somewhat heartened by the voluntary 192 00:08:13,550 --> 00:08:11,699 moratorium on nuclear weapon explosions 193 00:08:16,430 --> 00:08:13,560 now being observed by the major powers 194 00:08:18,950 --> 00:08:16,440 on your world we feel however that this 195 00:08:20,830 --> 00:08:18,960 moratorium cannot continue forever and 196 00:08:23,029 --> 00:08:20,840 there is but one answer to this question 197 00:08:25,430 --> 00:08:23,039 complete disarmament 198 00:08:27,890 --> 00:08:25,440 future contacts we will discuss how this 199 00:08:29,869 --> 00:08:27,900 can be accomplished but for now we will 200 00:08:35,149 --> 00:08:29,879 say only that there is no alternative to 201 00:08:38,750 --> 00:08:37,070 The Voice goes on to explain that 202 00:08:40,790 --> 00:08:38,760 obviously they've been watching Humanity 203 00:08:43,190 --> 00:08:40,800 for a long time they studied our history 204 00:08:45,350 --> 00:08:43,200 and they realize that we are more or 205 00:08:46,130 --> 00:08:45,360 less at war with one another all the 206 00:08:48,470 --> 00:08:46,140 time 207 00:08:50,570 --> 00:08:48,480 they note the slaughter of millions in 208 00:08:52,310 --> 00:08:50,580 the two World Wars the lack of 209 00:08:54,290 --> 00:08:52,320 intelligent leadership to use their 210 00:08:55,970 --> 00:08:54,300 words and the inability to discuss 211 00:08:58,790 --> 00:08:55,980 things peacefully 212 00:09:00,949 --> 00:08:58,800 in their interplanetary Alliance War is 213 00:09:03,230 --> 00:09:00,959 outlawed but even if it wasn't they 214 00:09:06,470 --> 00:09:03,240 explain none of them would take the idea 215 00:09:08,329 --> 00:09:06,480 of going to war seriously anyway 216 00:09:09,889 --> 00:09:08,339 the voice says that humanity is on a 217 00:09:11,810 --> 00:09:09,899 road to destruction they've seen it 218 00:09:13,910 --> 00:09:11,820 happen elsewhere and they don't want it 219 00:09:15,410 --> 00:09:13,920 to happen on Earth other beings who they 220 00:09:18,170 --> 00:09:15,420 call their brothers have been watching 221 00:09:20,449 --> 00:09:18,180 Earth since 1947. oh there's a good year 222 00:09:22,130 --> 00:09:20,459 and they're from local planets and they 223 00:09:24,170 --> 00:09:22,140 feel the same way about Humanity's 224 00:09:27,590 --> 00:09:24,180 potential for Destruction as the voice 225 00:09:29,389 --> 00:09:27,600 speaking to Bob over the radio does the 226 00:09:31,430 --> 00:09:29,399 voice also explains that they've been 227 00:09:33,470 --> 00:09:31,440 contacting various people on Earth on a 228 00:09:35,630 --> 00:09:33,480 regular basis but because of the 229 00:09:38,030 --> 00:09:35,640 skepticism and ridicule they have faced 230 00:09:40,550 --> 00:09:38,040 these contactees have concealed their 231 00:09:41,329 --> 00:09:40,560 experiences or most of the contact these 232 00:09:44,630 --> 00:09:41,339 have 233 00:09:48,350 --> 00:09:44,640 publicly discussed their contact 234 00:09:50,090 --> 00:09:48,360 experiences are only about 10 percent of 235 00:09:55,130 --> 00:09:50,100 the total number who've actually been 236 00:09:59,090 --> 00:09:57,350 we of other Sun systems have therefore 237 00:10:01,250 --> 00:09:59,100 come to this planet in the hopes of 238 00:10:03,350 --> 00:10:01,260 bolstering the words of our brethren 239 00:10:05,449 --> 00:10:03,360 it is shocking to us to find that even 240 00:10:07,850 --> 00:10:05,459 so pretentious an event as contact with 241 00:10:10,790 --> 00:10:07,860 people from outside your own world has 242 00:10:12,530 --> 00:10:10,800 had no great effect on your thinking 243 00:10:14,930 --> 00:10:12,540 inserting to see that despite our 244 00:10:16,790 --> 00:10:14,940 warnings your people are so set in their 245 00:10:18,829 --> 00:10:16,800 ways of thinking that they can ignore 246 00:10:20,930 --> 00:10:18,839 the fact they're headed for Doom unless 247 00:10:22,490 --> 00:10:20,940 drastic changes come to pass we are 248 00:10:24,290 --> 00:10:22,500 therefore contacting you with our 249 00:10:26,690 --> 00:10:24,300 warnings and suggestions to your people 250 00:10:28,310 --> 00:10:26,700 and we hope Beyond hope that the 251 00:10:30,170 --> 00:10:28,320 information and words of peace that you 252 00:10:31,850 --> 00:10:30,180 will be receiving in the future will 253 00:10:34,070 --> 00:10:31,860 serve to do what others have failed to 254 00:10:35,870 --> 00:10:34,080 do to awaken the people of the planet 255 00:10:38,210 --> 00:10:35,880 Earth to the Perils of continued 256 00:10:39,590 --> 00:10:38,220 militaries and insane races for the 257 00:10:42,230 --> 00:10:39,600 perfect weapons 258 00:10:44,449 --> 00:10:42,240 we can do only so much and no more since 259 00:10:46,250 --> 00:10:44,459 as we said before we cannot stop you 260 00:10:47,509 --> 00:10:46,260 from killing yourselves if you find it 261 00:10:49,910 --> 00:10:47,519 necessary 262 00:10:52,130 --> 00:10:49,920 Being Human members of the race of 263 00:10:54,530 --> 00:10:52,140 mankind you are our Brethren as much as 264 00:10:56,930 --> 00:10:54,540 those on our worlds are and they and we 265 00:10:58,730 --> 00:10:56,940 are likewise yours you therefore see 266 00:11:00,590 --> 00:10:58,740 that we take very great interest in your 267 00:11:03,290 --> 00:11:00,600 people and their happiness from a 268 00:11:05,870 --> 00:11:03,300 standpoint of being kin 269 00:11:07,670 --> 00:11:05,880 your people must do all themselves they 270 00:11:10,250 --> 00:11:07,680 must rally to the cause of true peace 271 00:11:11,509 --> 00:11:10,260 without outside support they must heed 272 00:11:14,329 --> 00:11:11,519 the words of their extraterrestrial 273 00:11:16,370 --> 00:11:14,339 Brothers they must preach this to their 274 00:11:18,889 --> 00:11:16,380 fellows and they must be firm in their 275 00:11:24,230 --> 00:11:18,899 beliefs they must not be swayed by even 276 00:11:28,610 --> 00:11:26,329 The Voice promises to give Humanity 277 00:11:31,430 --> 00:11:28,620 scientific and sociological information 278 00:11:33,110 --> 00:11:31,440 that will allow us to eliminate some of 279 00:11:35,210 --> 00:11:33,120 these problems but some of the 280 00:11:36,470 --> 00:11:35,220 information has to be kept secret for a 281 00:11:38,269 --> 00:11:36,480 long time 282 00:11:39,769 --> 00:11:38,279 The Voice explains that Bob has been 283 00:11:42,230 --> 00:11:39,779 chosen to spread the word by whatever 284 00:11:44,030 --> 00:11:42,240 means he thinks would be best next the 285 00:11:49,069 --> 00:11:44,040 mysterious voice is going to tell us 286 00:11:53,449 --> 00:11:51,050 perhaps you would be interested now in a 287 00:11:55,430 --> 00:11:53,459 description of our home planet the 25 of 288 00:11:58,250 --> 00:11:55,440 us in this peace party as it were are 289 00:11:59,810 --> 00:11:58,260 all natives of the planet corindor my 290 00:12:02,030 --> 00:11:59,820 profession is in the field of psychology 291 00:12:04,389 --> 00:12:02,040 others in this party are active in 292 00:12:07,310 --> 00:12:04,399 teratology the study of Your World 293 00:12:08,930 --> 00:12:07,320 anthropo Dynamics the study of humans 294 00:12:11,210 --> 00:12:08,940 and their motivations which borders on 295 00:12:13,670 --> 00:12:11,220 psychology sociology which you already 296 00:12:14,410 --> 00:12:13,680 know chemistry and physics also known to 297 00:12:16,670 --> 00:12:14,420 you 298 00:12:19,009 --> 00:12:16,680 parapsychophysics which by analysis 299 00:12:20,870 --> 00:12:19,019 would seem to be the study of the 300 00:12:23,389 --> 00:12:20,880 physics of parapsychics including 301 00:12:26,210 --> 00:12:23,399 telepathy psychokinesis Clairvoyance 302 00:12:27,829 --> 00:12:26,220 clairaudience ESP and the other fields 303 00:12:30,290 --> 00:12:27,839 of mental activity beyond the five 304 00:12:33,110 --> 00:12:30,300 physical senses we will explain some of 305 00:12:35,329 --> 00:12:33,120 these in detail in later contacts also 306 00:12:36,769 --> 00:12:35,339 there are two genetico biologists 307 00:12:39,290 --> 00:12:36,779 interested in the evolution and 308 00:12:40,850 --> 00:12:39,300 biophysics of your people as usual there 309 00:12:43,310 --> 00:12:40,860 is also the crew of the various ships 310 00:12:45,769 --> 00:12:43,320 the analysts the mathematicians the 311 00:12:48,290 --> 00:12:45,779 console operators and others associated 312 00:12:50,509 --> 00:12:48,300 with a venture into Interstellar space 313 00:12:53,449 --> 00:12:50,519 our home planet is like your earth and 314 00:12:56,449 --> 00:12:53,459 its parents although 2.74 times as large 315 00:12:58,850 --> 00:12:56,459 its surface gravity is 3.2 times that of 316 00:13:00,829 --> 00:12:58,860 Earth also since our air is slightly 317 00:13:02,210 --> 00:13:00,839 richer in oxygen than yours we cannot 318 00:13:04,250 --> 00:13:02,220 breathe yours without a period of 319 00:13:08,690 --> 00:13:04,260 adaption and are forced for the present 320 00:13:12,050 --> 00:13:10,310 there is some talk about how their 321 00:13:13,730 --> 00:13:12,060 spaceships work and we learned that they 322 00:13:15,889 --> 00:13:13,740 spent millions of dollars to develop 323 00:13:17,269 --> 00:13:15,899 their anti-gravity research which is 324 00:13:19,790 --> 00:13:17,279 actually kind of interesting because I'm 325 00:13:21,590 --> 00:13:19,800 not sure off the top of my head that I 326 00:13:23,509 --> 00:13:21,600 recall discussion of space brothers or 327 00:13:24,889 --> 00:13:23,519 sisters talking in those kinds of 328 00:13:26,810 --> 00:13:24,899 economic terms 329 00:13:28,670 --> 00:13:26,820 The Voice explains that the contact has 330 00:13:30,710 --> 00:13:28,680 gone on longer than expected and they're 331 00:13:35,870 --> 00:13:30,720 going to be in touch with Bob again on 332 00:13:39,590 --> 00:13:37,850 we wish you the peace of mind that comes 333 00:13:41,629 --> 00:13:39,600 from knowing the great truth and look 334 00:13:44,030 --> 00:13:41,639 forward to the next contact but for now 335 00:13:45,769 --> 00:13:44,040 we must leave the air your atmospheric 336 00:13:47,389 --> 00:13:45,779 conditions are changing now to the point 337 00:13:49,250 --> 00:13:47,399 where some of the beam on which my voice 338 00:13:51,590 --> 00:13:49,260 is carried might be scattered and 339 00:13:57,769 --> 00:13:51,600 received by others than yourself 340 00:14:02,509 --> 00:14:00,710 that last bit is the Corinthian language 341 00:14:05,629 --> 00:14:02,519 I was not having some kind of episode 342 00:14:08,329 --> 00:14:05,639 and it's translated actually go in light 343 00:14:10,490 --> 00:14:08,339 till next we meet and Bob admits to 344 00:14:13,310 --> 00:14:10,500 being overwhelmed being chosen to spread 345 00:14:16,850 --> 00:14:13,320 what in his words are the word of love 346 00:14:18,530 --> 00:14:16,860 from a race 400 light years distant 347 00:14:20,090 --> 00:14:18,540 now I should mention that I'm not 348 00:14:22,310 --> 00:14:20,100 getting these from the old gay Bureau 349 00:14:24,110 --> 00:14:22,320 green newsletters but rather the website 350 00:14:25,490 --> 00:14:24,120 that is collecting all of her not's 351 00:14:27,530 --> 00:14:25,500 messages there's going to be a link to 352 00:14:28,790 --> 00:14:27,540 the site in the show notes the reason I 353 00:14:30,650 --> 00:14:28,800 mention this is that there's a little 354 00:14:33,170 --> 00:14:30,660 footnote at the bottom of these messages 355 00:14:36,350 --> 00:14:33,180 noting that the copy has been proofread 356 00:14:39,230 --> 00:14:36,360 and typos were fixed sometime in 2008 357 00:14:41,689 --> 00:14:39,240 and that there was improved wording from 358 00:14:43,990 --> 00:14:41,699 the spot checking I did I didn't notice 359 00:14:47,449 --> 00:14:44,000 any substance changes the the 360 00:14:49,790 --> 00:14:47,459 substantive changes from The Originals 361 00:14:52,610 --> 00:14:49,800 there is one instance where there was 362 00:14:55,129 --> 00:14:52,620 kind of a change but Renaud notes that 363 00:14:59,030 --> 00:14:55,139 and so I do go back and look at the 364 00:15:01,009 --> 00:14:59,040 original as you will here in a bit now I 365 00:15:03,290 --> 00:15:01,019 should say also that the proofreading in 366 00:15:04,850 --> 00:15:03,300 typos were an improved wording as far as 367 00:15:06,769 --> 00:15:04,860 I can tell that was done by Renaud 368 00:15:09,410 --> 00:15:06,779 himself so it isn't somebody else coming 369 00:15:11,990 --> 00:15:09,420 in and changing things because they 370 00:15:12,769 --> 00:15:12,000 think the contact e was was wrong or 371 00:15:15,170 --> 00:15:12,779 something 372 00:15:17,870 --> 00:15:15,180 now true to their word Bob's new friends 373 00:15:19,790 --> 00:15:17,880 will contact him on August 5th and 374 00:15:24,230 --> 00:15:19,800 renaud's account of this shows a nice 375 00:15:28,610 --> 00:15:26,689 the date was August 5th it was exactly 376 00:15:30,650 --> 00:15:28,620 three weeks since that eventful evening 377 00:15:32,629 --> 00:15:30,660 in July that night of nights when the 378 00:15:34,730 --> 00:15:32,639 space people informed me of my sudden 379 00:15:36,829 --> 00:15:34,740 promotion that day from Lone Wolf 380 00:15:38,329 --> 00:15:36,839 ufologist to the official spokesman for 381 00:15:39,829 --> 00:15:38,339 the Corinthians the Terran 382 00:15:41,090 --> 00:15:39,839 representative of the alliance of 383 00:15:43,310 --> 00:15:41,100 planets 384 00:15:45,949 --> 00:15:43,320 the time was now slowly approaching sea 385 00:15:47,810 --> 00:15:45,959 Hour 2 A.M my equipment was in top 386 00:15:49,730 --> 00:15:47,820 condition and was waiting silently for 387 00:15:50,750 --> 00:15:49,740 the momentous events that were to follow 388 00:15:52,430 --> 00:15:50,760 that evening 389 00:15:55,069 --> 00:15:52,440 the newly constructed Subspace 390 00:15:57,530 --> 00:15:55,079 transmitter its final stage tube glowing 391 00:15:59,329 --> 00:15:57,540 with a soft cheery red luminescence sat 392 00:16:01,730 --> 00:15:59,339 anticipatingly in the center of the 393 00:16:03,590 --> 00:16:01,740 table to my left I had spent the full 394 00:16:05,090 --> 00:16:03,600 three hours the evening before carefully 395 00:16:06,889 --> 00:16:05,100 aligning its circuits according to the 396 00:16:09,530 --> 00:16:06,899 instructions received in the first 397 00:16:11,629 --> 00:16:09,540 Contact and in a few moments it would 398 00:16:13,310 --> 00:16:11,639 experience its Moment of Truth 399 00:16:16,250 --> 00:16:13,320 to my right the Old Reliable 400 00:16:18,829 --> 00:16:16,260 helicrafter's s38e receiver was hissing 401 00:16:20,629 --> 00:16:18,839 the contempt of space and time at me it 402 00:16:23,269 --> 00:16:20,639 had been converted to SSR Transmissions 403 00:16:24,050 --> 00:16:23,279 late in July and it too was awaiting its 404 00:16:25,850 --> 00:16:24,060 test 405 00:16:27,650 --> 00:16:25,860 before me the clock was finishing its 406 00:16:29,930 --> 00:16:27,660 round of that minute and second hand 407 00:16:32,389 --> 00:16:29,940 swept past 12 on its way around the face 408 00:16:34,790 --> 00:16:32,399 filing away the used seconds in the 409 00:16:37,550 --> 00:16:34,800 infinite drawer marked time 410 00:16:39,050 --> 00:16:37,560 as it passed 30 I grew tense waiting for 411 00:16:41,629 --> 00:16:39,060 the first faint hum that would Herald 412 00:16:43,129 --> 00:16:41,639 the signal from A Million Miles Away my 413 00:16:44,810 --> 00:16:43,139 fingers were wrapped like rubber bands 414 00:16:48,110 --> 00:16:44,820 around the microphone trying to compress 415 00:16:50,569 --> 00:16:48,120 it into Oblivion 15 seconds there's the 416 00:16:52,249 --> 00:16:50,579 hum growing louder by the moment the 417 00:16:54,230 --> 00:16:52,259 noises of the universe released their 418 00:16:56,389 --> 00:16:54,240 grip on the antenna and reluctantly 419 00:16:58,189 --> 00:16:56,399 stepped aside for the immense signal 420 00:16:59,090 --> 00:16:58,199 that came from somewhere beyond the 421 00:17:05,510 --> 00:16:59,100 night 422 00:17:10,309 --> 00:17:08,449 okay first of all yes that was really 423 00:17:13,370 --> 00:17:10,319 well written I enjoyed that it was 424 00:17:16,069 --> 00:17:13,380 dramatic it was it was it was tense I 425 00:17:18,650 --> 00:17:16,079 could feel that sort of feeling of of 426 00:17:21,350 --> 00:17:18,660 anticipating watching the clock some of 427 00:17:24,470 --> 00:17:21,360 it's a little overwritten filed away 428 00:17:26,929 --> 00:17:24,480 into the the infinite drawer marked time 429 00:17:30,289 --> 00:17:26,939 but one thing that jumped out at me 430 00:17:36,169 --> 00:17:30,299 is that he mentioned having been a lone 431 00:17:41,450 --> 00:17:39,470 um and uh I think maybe 62 by the time 432 00:17:45,230 --> 00:17:41,460 yes 63 actually by the time it was 433 00:17:48,409 --> 00:17:45,240 printed in UFO International and I 434 00:17:50,630 --> 00:17:48,419 wasn't sure if the term ufologist was 435 00:17:53,110 --> 00:17:50,640 being used that's a little earlier than 436 00:17:58,010 --> 00:17:53,120 I usually have heard the word ufologist 437 00:18:00,409 --> 00:17:58,020 so I did go back to issue 18 of Gabriel 438 00:18:01,330 --> 00:18:00,419 Green's UFO International in the 439 00:18:04,669 --> 00:18:01,340 original 440 00:18:06,470 --> 00:18:04,679 Renaud refers to himself as that night 441 00:18:09,830 --> 00:18:06,480 of nights when the space people informed 442 00:18:12,490 --> 00:18:09,840 me of my sudden promotion from Lone Wolf 443 00:18:17,090 --> 00:18:12,500 ufologer 444 00:18:21,430 --> 00:18:17,100 two official spokesman for 445 00:18:23,690 --> 00:18:21,440 the Corinthians so lone wolf eupholiger 446 00:18:27,169 --> 00:18:23,700 I don't think I've ever heard the term 447 00:18:29,029 --> 00:18:27,179 ufologer before this I don't like it I I 448 00:18:30,890 --> 00:18:29,039 don't like ufologist I think that's kind 449 00:18:33,470 --> 00:18:30,900 of dumb but I'm not sure I like you 450 00:18:35,450 --> 00:18:33,480 followedger I like saucerer that that uh 451 00:18:37,250 --> 00:18:35,460 that's a good term most of the 452 00:18:39,289 --> 00:18:37,260 conversation revolves around the 453 00:18:42,169 --> 00:18:39,299 operation of the Corinthians language 454 00:18:44,330 --> 00:18:42,179 device which is basically a universal 455 00:18:46,970 --> 00:18:44,340 translator like you've seen in many 456 00:18:48,770 --> 00:18:46,980 science fiction sorts of things 457 00:18:50,450 --> 00:18:48,780 it's an interesting little bit of World 458 00:18:53,990 --> 00:18:50,460 building but the explanations that 459 00:18:59,270 --> 00:18:54,000 Renaud gives are a bit clunky and kind 460 00:19:02,990 --> 00:19:00,890 the machine is actually a special 461 00:19:04,970 --> 00:19:03,000 purpose computer with a mass memory 462 00:19:07,549 --> 00:19:04,980 console input output and the relevant 463 00:19:09,230 --> 00:19:07,559 circuits the input consists of impulses 464 00:19:10,730 --> 00:19:09,240 relayed by our remote sensors that we 465 00:19:12,049 --> 00:19:10,740 have planted in various places around 466 00:19:14,150 --> 00:19:12,059 our country 467 00:19:16,370 --> 00:19:14,160 these impulses consist of two components 468 00:19:18,590 --> 00:19:16,380 the spoken sound and the corresponding 469 00:19:20,510 --> 00:19:18,600 mental impression they're separated in 470 00:19:22,789 --> 00:19:20,520 the analyzer's input discriminator and 471 00:19:24,470 --> 00:19:22,799 fed to two circuits the first receives 472 00:19:26,390 --> 00:19:24,480 the sound impulse and stores it for the 473 00:19:28,070 --> 00:19:26,400 moment the other the mental impulse 474 00:19:30,110 --> 00:19:28,080 section instantly begins breaking down 475 00:19:31,490 --> 00:19:30,120 the image into basic components and 476 00:19:33,529 --> 00:19:31,500 these components of the received 477 00:19:35,270 --> 00:19:33,539 telepathic signal are then compared with 478 00:19:37,610 --> 00:19:35,280 those in the machine's memory banks 479 00:19:39,650 --> 00:19:37,620 within a few microseconds the analyzer 480 00:19:42,230 --> 00:19:39,660 finds an Impulse exactly or nearly 481 00:19:43,730 --> 00:19:42,240 exactly like the received impulse The 482 00:19:46,010 --> 00:19:43,740 Coincidence triggers another Storage 483 00:19:48,230 --> 00:19:46,020 Bank and which are all the words in GK 484 00:19:50,210 --> 00:19:48,240 that correspond to the mental impulses 485 00:19:52,010 --> 00:19:50,220 in the first memory section this 486 00:19:54,289 --> 00:19:52,020 releases the appropriate word and also 487 00:19:56,330 --> 00:19:54,299 the stored English word together they 488 00:19:58,610 --> 00:19:56,340 are recorded as the output and are the 489 00:20:00,830 --> 00:19:58,620 translations of each other the larger 490 00:20:02,630 --> 00:20:00,840 unit received from corindor has no 491 00:20:04,490 --> 00:20:02,640 memory banks in itself but is connected 492 00:20:06,230 --> 00:20:04,500 by direct SSR line to the master 493 00:20:08,630 --> 00:20:06,240 language Center's half billion word 494 00:20:10,850 --> 00:20:08,640 memory network with this device there is 495 00:20:12,830 --> 00:20:10,860 no word that cannot be translated 496 00:20:14,270 --> 00:20:12,840 once we had learned the words it was a 497 00:20:15,770 --> 00:20:14,280 simple matter to study your 498 00:20:18,529 --> 00:20:15,780 transmissions for proper placement 499 00:20:20,270 --> 00:20:18,539 inflection pauses Etc I assume that has 500 00:20:23,570 --> 00:20:20,280 clarified any questions on this matter 501 00:20:29,330 --> 00:20:27,289 no no sir it does not clarify anything 502 00:20:30,710 --> 00:20:29,340 you you could have just said we have a 503 00:20:33,409 --> 00:20:30,720 device that translates your language 504 00:20:34,310 --> 00:20:33,419 into our language and that is perfectly 505 00:20:37,070 --> 00:20:34,320 fine 506 00:20:39,890 --> 00:20:37,080 but I will say I think it's interesting 507 00:20:41,570 --> 00:20:39,900 that their translation device separates 508 00:20:44,630 --> 00:20:41,580 the sound 509 00:20:47,330 --> 00:20:44,640 of the word from the mental image they 510 00:20:50,350 --> 00:20:47,340 receive telepathically as someone speaks 511 00:20:54,049 --> 00:20:50,360 the word I think that's an interesting 512 00:20:57,470 --> 00:20:54,059 way to address the fact that that 513 00:21:00,950 --> 00:20:57,480 language is you know language exists 514 00:21:02,870 --> 00:21:00,960 within a broader context of the person's 515 00:21:04,970 --> 00:21:02,880 experiences and the lens lenses through 516 00:21:07,970 --> 00:21:04,980 which they view the world and things I I 517 00:21:10,130 --> 00:21:07,980 think that's um actually pretty darn 518 00:21:14,210 --> 00:21:10,140 fascinating they just could have used 519 00:21:17,210 --> 00:21:14,220 fewer words to do that and in this 520 00:21:19,070 --> 00:21:17,220 contact we get names the woman Renaud 521 00:21:23,390 --> 00:21:19,080 has been communicating with is named 522 00:21:25,010 --> 00:21:23,400 Lynn Erie l-i-n hyphen e-r-r-i and the 523 00:21:27,190 --> 00:21:25,020 fella who explained the translator is 524 00:21:29,870 --> 00:21:27,200 named Jaron 525 00:21:32,690 --> 00:21:29,880 j-a-r-r-e-n so what do they talk about 526 00:21:34,970 --> 00:21:32,700 well renad and Lynn array are discussing 527 00:21:37,370 --> 00:21:34,980 the regrettable antagonism toward 528 00:21:40,250 --> 00:21:37,380 contact ease by prominent Flying Saucer 529 00:21:42,770 --> 00:21:40,260 clubs of course one reason for this she 530 00:21:44,570 --> 00:21:42,780 explains is that quote some of these who 531 00:21:46,310 --> 00:21:44,580 have been contacted are relating their 532 00:21:48,529 --> 00:21:46,320 story to their personal aggrandizement 533 00:21:50,570 --> 00:21:48,539 rather than to the constructive quest 534 00:21:52,310 --> 00:21:50,580 for world peace on the other hand 535 00:21:53,930 --> 00:21:52,320 there's The Perennial problem of humans 536 00:21:55,850 --> 00:21:53,940 refusing to accept things they don't 537 00:21:58,909 --> 00:21:55,860 understand or that are outside their 538 00:22:01,370 --> 00:21:58,919 experience Lynn area here really kind of 539 00:22:05,149 --> 00:22:01,380 does go all in on criticizing certain 540 00:22:09,169 --> 00:22:07,610 there are a few who as the result of 541 00:22:11,090 --> 00:22:09,179 their contacts with extraterrestrial 542 00:22:12,830 --> 00:22:11,100 Brothers have become haughty and 543 00:22:14,750 --> 00:22:12,840 arrogant rather than peace loving and 544 00:22:17,029 --> 00:22:14,760 humble in their service of humanity 545 00:22:19,190 --> 00:22:17,039 there are also a few who are outright 546 00:22:21,890 --> 00:22:19,200 Liars if I may be that strong worded 547 00:22:23,810 --> 00:22:21,900 these harm our cause immensely we spoke 548 00:22:25,430 --> 00:22:23,820 of this in the last contact and we will 549 00:22:27,649 --> 00:22:25,440 mention it again because we cannot 550 00:22:29,450 --> 00:22:27,659 impress too strongly that for peace 551 00:22:31,730 --> 00:22:29,460 movements such as the Flying Saucer 552 00:22:35,289 --> 00:22:31,740 movement to succeed there must be truth 553 00:22:40,070 --> 00:22:37,789 unfortunately she doesn't name names 554 00:22:42,529 --> 00:22:40,080 which actually is in keeping with the 555 00:22:45,230 --> 00:22:42,539 long-standing contact D tradition of not 556 00:22:47,570 --> 00:22:45,240 knocking other contactees claims 557 00:22:50,029 --> 00:22:47,580 too hard because you wouldn't want them 558 00:22:52,130 --> 00:22:50,039 poking holes in your own story right 559 00:22:54,289 --> 00:22:52,140 now renat has been chosen because he has 560 00:22:56,990 --> 00:22:54,299 the necessary characteristics of a good 561 00:23:00,049 --> 00:22:57,000 contactee which she describes as 562 00:23:02,930 --> 00:23:00,059 Devotion to the cause love of men desire 563 00:23:04,250 --> 00:23:02,940 for peace and an unfailing Drive despite 564 00:23:06,289 --> 00:23:04,260 obstacles 565 00:23:08,149 --> 00:23:06,299 Lynn area is also highly critical of 566 00:23:09,890 --> 00:23:08,159 various government decisions to withhold 567 00:23:11,029 --> 00:23:09,900 information about flying saucers from 568 00:23:13,310 --> 00:23:11,039 the people 569 00:23:15,230 --> 00:23:13,320 he says this policy is completely mad 570 00:23:17,210 --> 00:23:15,240 and that the public needs to be prepared 571 00:23:19,610 --> 00:23:17,220 because eventually there's going to be a 572 00:23:21,409 --> 00:23:19,620 landing we also learned that various 573 00:23:23,230 --> 00:23:21,419 government leaders have been contacted 574 00:23:25,970 --> 00:23:23,240 by ambassadors from the Confederation 575 00:23:28,669 --> 00:23:25,980 Kennedy was contacted quote during his 576 00:23:31,130 --> 00:23:28,679 time in the Pacific during World War II 577 00:23:33,789 --> 00:23:31,140 I assume and U.N Secretary General dog 578 00:23:36,590 --> 00:23:33,799 hammershold was contacted three times 579 00:23:40,250 --> 00:23:36,600 Khrushchev was contacted twice and my 580 00:23:42,890 --> 00:23:40,260 favorite we learned that Lenin was a 581 00:23:45,649 --> 00:23:42,900 passenger on a confederation spaceship 582 00:23:46,490 --> 00:23:45,659 on no less than four occasions and 583 00:23:49,010 --> 00:23:46,500 there's no mention of President 584 00:23:50,390 --> 00:23:49,020 Eisenhower and Edwards Air Force Base 585 00:23:55,130 --> 00:23:50,400 which I think is interesting but 586 00:23:58,730 --> 00:23:55,140 following those Revelations we turn to a 587 00:24:00,169 --> 00:23:58,740 more serious topic which is fine and in 588 00:24:02,450 --> 00:24:00,179 keeping with the whole Spirit of 589 00:24:04,789 --> 00:24:02,460 contactism but I really want to hear 590 00:24:06,470 --> 00:24:04,799 more about Conrad Lennon's adventures in 591 00:24:10,010 --> 00:24:06,480 a flying saucer but there's no time for 592 00:24:14,510 --> 00:24:10,020 that because Lynn Airy has important 593 00:24:17,930 --> 00:24:16,370 after a few moments of informal 594 00:24:19,789 --> 00:24:17,940 storytelling concerning each other's 595 00:24:21,770 --> 00:24:19,799 histories we turned to the question all 596 00:24:24,169 --> 00:24:21,780 men are asking what can be done about 597 00:24:27,409 --> 00:24:24,179 Atomic weapons what can these weapons do 598 00:24:29,330 --> 00:24:27,419 and how can they be made unnecessary her 599 00:24:30,770 --> 00:24:29,340 voice grew serious losing its usual 600 00:24:32,690 --> 00:24:30,780 merry quality 601 00:24:34,789 --> 00:24:32,700 let me first tell you what you face if 602 00:24:37,310 --> 00:24:34,799 you engage in Atomic Warfare 603 00:24:39,649 --> 00:24:37,320 over 95 percent of your population will 604 00:24:41,810 --> 00:24:39,659 be wiped out in the first few days the 605 00:24:43,549 --> 00:24:41,820 rest will survive the war itself if a 606 00:24:44,390 --> 00:24:43,559 condition to be spoken of later does not 607 00:24:46,669 --> 00:24:44,400 occur 608 00:24:48,649 --> 00:24:46,679 these few survivors will degenerate to 609 00:24:50,450 --> 00:24:48,659 unreasoning Savages and live the lives 610 00:24:52,010 --> 00:24:50,460 of prowling scavengers hunting 611 00:24:53,870 --> 00:24:52,020 incessantly for what little food is 612 00:24:56,330 --> 00:24:53,880 available and to finding nothing else 613 00:24:57,950 --> 00:24:56,340 indulging in a meal of human flesh 614 00:25:00,230 --> 00:24:57,960 the survival Instinct is very strong 615 00:25:02,450 --> 00:25:00,240 indeed even to the extent of destroying 616 00:25:04,490 --> 00:25:02,460 what principles one possesses 617 00:25:06,110 --> 00:25:04,500 Easter left will because of lack of 618 00:25:08,390 --> 00:25:06,120 hospital treatment and shelter from 619 00:25:11,149 --> 00:25:08,400 radiation sickness or by the hand of 620 00:25:12,890 --> 00:25:11,159 their brother die out within a few years 621 00:25:14,750 --> 00:25:12,900 the remaining living creatures will 622 00:25:17,090 --> 00:25:14,760 slowly perish and within 20 years the 623 00:25:19,370 --> 00:25:17,100 planet Earth will be a Barren hell unfit 624 00:25:21,470 --> 00:25:19,380 for habitation as such it will be 625 00:25:23,090 --> 00:25:21,480 sterilized to erase a gruesome memory 626 00:25:24,110 --> 00:25:23,100 from the pages of the Diary of the 627 00:25:26,330 --> 00:25:24,120 universe 628 00:25:28,430 --> 00:25:26,340 as to what can be done about them they 629 00:25:30,769 --> 00:25:28,440 must be completely dismantled all 630 00:25:32,390 --> 00:25:30,779 countries possessing them must do so in 631 00:25:34,490 --> 00:25:32,400 a later contact in which we will discuss 632 00:25:36,230 --> 00:25:34,500 the United Nations we shall advise you 633 00:25:41,210 --> 00:25:36,240 on how to strengthen the group to become 634 00:25:48,710 --> 00:25:44,870 that really is a grim assessment and 635 00:25:50,690 --> 00:25:48,720 probably not too inaccurate it actually 636 00:25:53,450 --> 00:25:50,700 if you've seen 637 00:25:54,730 --> 00:25:53,460 the movie threads the BBC film threads 638 00:25:57,409 --> 00:25:54,740 from 639 00:26:00,230 --> 00:25:57,419 1984 I believe 640 00:26:03,649 --> 00:26:00,240 um it reminds me a lot of that only much 641 00:26:05,990 --> 00:26:03,659 less horrific threads is one of the few 642 00:26:07,310 --> 00:26:06,000 films that frightened me enough and 643 00:26:09,890 --> 00:26:07,320 Disturbed me enough that I will I will 644 00:26:12,470 --> 00:26:09,900 never I will never watch it again it it 645 00:26:15,649 --> 00:26:12,480 gave me nightmares so quick 646 00:26:17,630 --> 00:26:15,659 recommendation go see threads I I saw it 647 00:26:18,590 --> 00:26:17,640 on YouTube there's a Blu-ray out there I 648 00:26:21,529 --> 00:26:18,600 think 649 00:26:23,690 --> 00:26:21,539 um chilling chilling stuff oh and while 650 00:26:26,510 --> 00:26:23,700 we're talking aftermath of nuclear war 651 00:26:28,430 --> 00:26:26,520 there's a a cartoon I think also from 652 00:26:31,490 --> 00:26:28,440 Britain from the 80s called when the 653 00:26:34,669 --> 00:26:31,500 wind blows it's an animated film about a 654 00:26:38,390 --> 00:26:34,679 sweet little old elderly couple who are 655 00:26:41,269 --> 00:26:38,400 involved in a 1980s nuclear exchange and 656 00:26:43,190 --> 00:26:41,279 the aftermath of that it is also 657 00:26:46,430 --> 00:26:43,200 um relentlessly 658 00:26:48,289 --> 00:26:46,440 um sobering as things about nuclear war 659 00:26:50,510 --> 00:26:48,299 are 660 00:26:52,549 --> 00:26:50,520 um some of you may mention that is it 661 00:26:55,909 --> 00:26:52,559 that not the day after 662 00:26:58,610 --> 00:26:55,919 um so the day after the American sort of 663 00:27:00,350 --> 00:26:58,620 won the TV movie was Steve Gutenberg and 664 00:27:02,690 --> 00:27:00,360 uh I can't really take Steve Gutenberg 665 00:27:05,630 --> 00:27:02,700 seriously and any sort of 666 00:27:09,289 --> 00:27:05,640 serious film so don't watch that watch 667 00:27:12,049 --> 00:27:09,299 when the wind blows watch threads oh um 668 00:27:13,610 --> 00:27:12,059 for a real Classic this is from 1965 I 669 00:27:16,549 --> 00:27:13,620 think it's another BBC One called the 670 00:27:20,390 --> 00:27:16,559 war game and uh it was judged back in 671 00:27:22,789 --> 00:27:20,400 1965 so disturbing that it was not shown 672 00:27:25,610 --> 00:27:22,799 to the public until the 1980s so check 673 00:27:26,870 --> 00:27:25,620 out the war game as well it's kind of a 674 00:27:29,750 --> 00:27:26,880 hobby of mine these these 675 00:27:32,330 --> 00:27:29,760 post-apocalyptic uh very realistic 676 00:27:33,649 --> 00:27:32,340 nuclear war scenarios but it I was gonna 677 00:27:36,049 --> 00:27:33,659 say we're getting off topic but no this 678 00:27:38,269 --> 00:27:36,059 is exactly what uh Lynn Airy was was 679 00:27:41,090 --> 00:27:38,279 talking about and her solution seems 680 00:27:43,669 --> 00:27:41,100 kind of simple just get rid of the nukes 681 00:27:45,890 --> 00:27:43,679 it's incredibly simple it's also you 682 00:27:47,510 --> 00:27:45,900 know pretty much impossible I hope 683 00:27:49,250 --> 00:27:47,520 whatever information she eventually 684 00:27:52,909 --> 00:27:49,260 shares involving how to strengthen the 685 00:27:55,010 --> 00:27:52,919 UN is uh is is Handy she does explain 686 00:27:57,110 --> 00:27:55,020 that until the nukes can be dismantled 687 00:27:59,570 --> 00:27:57,120 the the UN should take control of all 688 00:28:01,970 --> 00:27:59,580 nuclear weapon capability and she also 689 00:28:04,430 --> 00:28:01,980 explains here's a callback for us she 690 00:28:06,710 --> 00:28:04,440 explains that in the future prior Choice 691 00:28:08,870 --> 00:28:06,720 economics will be how things work on 692 00:28:10,190 --> 00:28:08,880 Earth this probably isn't a surprising 693 00:28:12,289 --> 00:28:10,200 statement since it was published in 694 00:28:15,049 --> 00:28:12,299 Gabriel Green's newsletter and he was 695 00:28:17,149 --> 00:28:15,059 the guru of Prior Choice economics if 696 00:28:19,310 --> 00:28:17,159 you're not in the loop on prior Choice 697 00:28:21,409 --> 00:28:19,320 economics check out our Gabriel Green 698 00:28:23,570 --> 00:28:21,419 episode I can't promise you'll 699 00:28:26,690 --> 00:28:23,580 understand but I promise that I sort of 700 00:28:28,490 --> 00:28:26,700 kind of tried to explain it she tells 701 00:28:30,649 --> 00:28:28,500 renad that he and others must work 702 00:28:32,450 --> 00:28:30,659 tirelessly for peace contacting 703 00:28:34,549 --> 00:28:32,460 politicians and trying to make a 704 00:28:37,430 --> 00:28:34,559 difference she promises to contact him 705 00:28:39,409 --> 00:28:37,440 again on August 19th Bernard closes this 706 00:28:43,850 --> 00:28:39,419 account by saying that he vowed to work 707 00:28:47,169 --> 00:28:43,860 until his demise for Universal peace 708 00:28:52,010 --> 00:28:49,549 if you like the saucer life and want 709 00:28:54,649 --> 00:28:52,020 more you can support us in exchange for 710 00:28:56,450 --> 00:28:54,659 bonus content it's been almost a year 711 00:28:59,690 --> 00:28:56,460 since we started it up but we've got a 712 00:29:01,490 --> 00:28:59,700 nice library of materials on our patreon 713 00:29:03,350 --> 00:29:01,500 not just from the saucer life but from 714 00:29:05,529 --> 00:29:03,360 our show Great Lakes lore 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00:29:44,750 --> 00:29:40,679 48480 uh we've got some feedback from 731 00:29:48,110 --> 00:29:44,760 our Zen scene episode about apro uh the 732 00:29:51,409 --> 00:29:48,120 Opera newsletter in the year 1972. 733 00:29:53,090 --> 00:29:51,419 Kyle asks my question for the episode is 734 00:29:54,590 --> 00:29:53,100 recent history has shown us that there 735 00:29:56,450 --> 00:29:54,600 is a market for things like Drunk 736 00:29:58,370 --> 00:29:56,460 History content has your experience and 737 00:30:00,710 --> 00:29:58,380 feedback indicated to you that NyQuil 738 00:30:02,510 --> 00:30:00,720 ufology might be an emerging market do 739 00:30:05,570 --> 00:30:02,520 you intend to be a Trailblazer into this 740 00:30:08,330 --> 00:30:05,580 hypothetical New Field of content I I 741 00:30:10,850 --> 00:30:08,340 really should do more episodes on um on 742 00:30:13,549 --> 00:30:10,860 cold medicine it was a a fine experience 743 00:30:16,610 --> 00:30:13,559 and um I don't think there was much 744 00:30:17,810 --> 00:30:16,620 degradation and quality Lester has a 745 00:30:20,389 --> 00:30:17,820 couple questions he wants to know if 746 00:30:22,490 --> 00:30:20,399 Farm Cat still exit or comcat still 747 00:30:25,250 --> 00:30:22,500 exists in some form that's the the 748 00:30:28,610 --> 00:30:25,260 Opera's computer punch card organization 749 00:30:33,470 --> 00:30:28,620 system for records I have not been able 750 00:30:35,870 --> 00:30:33,480 to find out I think a lot of approphiles 751 00:30:37,850 --> 00:30:35,880 oh gosh I used to know where they went I 752 00:30:39,289 --> 00:30:37,860 I don't know if Farm Cat still exists in 753 00:30:42,649 --> 00:30:39,299 some form it would be nice if somebody 754 00:30:44,930 --> 00:30:42,659 converted it to floppy disk or uh or or 755 00:30:48,230 --> 00:30:44,940 something that would be uh that would be 756 00:30:49,250 --> 00:30:48,240 good and Lester also asks if um or asks 757 00:30:51,649 --> 00:30:49,260 why 758 00:30:53,510 --> 00:30:51,659 uh kufos the center for UFO studies 759 00:30:55,430 --> 00:30:53,520 hasn't had the same sort of like 760 00:30:59,210 --> 00:30:55,440 meltdown demise or whatever as 761 00:31:01,850 --> 00:30:59,220 organizations like apro and and nycap or 762 00:31:03,110 --> 00:31:01,860 or gotten kind of large and silly like 763 00:31:04,909 --> 00:31:03,120 mufon and I think it's because the 764 00:31:08,570 --> 00:31:04,919 center for UFO research 765 00:31:11,330 --> 00:31:08,580 um or Center for UFO studies rather is 766 00:31:14,690 --> 00:31:11,340 um very narrowly focused on sort of 767 00:31:17,029 --> 00:31:14,700 providing grants for specific projects 768 00:31:18,950 --> 00:31:17,039 they're not out there as far as I know 769 00:31:22,250 --> 00:31:18,960 they were never out there doing a lot of 770 00:31:24,110 --> 00:31:22,260 advocacy or or pestering the Air Force 771 00:31:27,889 --> 00:31:24,120 or Congress or things like that so I 772 00:31:29,630 --> 00:31:27,899 think keeping a lower profile and 773 00:31:30,470 --> 00:31:29,640 um trying to be a little more 774 00:31:31,970 --> 00:31:30,480 um 775 00:31:35,029 --> 00:31:31,980 I don't know 776 00:31:38,149 --> 00:31:35,039 legit and professional and scholarly 777 00:31:40,370 --> 00:31:38,159 maybe worked to their uh to their 778 00:31:42,889 --> 00:31:40,380 advantage all right well thank you for 779 00:31:47,940 --> 00:31:42,899 the feedback we always enjoy feedback 780 00:31:53,450 --> 00:31:47,950 and let's get back to Bob reynaud 781 00:31:58,789 --> 00:31:56,810 now it would be an extensively long 782 00:32:01,430 --> 00:31:58,799 thing to go through each of these 783 00:32:03,649 --> 00:32:01,440 Transmissions even with just the initial 784 00:32:04,549 --> 00:32:03,659 40 that appeared in the 1960s so I'm 785 00:32:07,430 --> 00:32:04,559 going to pick out some of the more 786 00:32:09,049 --> 00:32:07,440 interesting bits uh throughout parts of 787 00:32:11,330 --> 00:32:09,059 the 60s to to share with you and again 788 00:32:13,850 --> 00:32:11,340 not entirely positive my impression is 789 00:32:17,090 --> 00:32:13,860 that Bob Bernard probably produced more 790 00:32:19,610 --> 00:32:17,100 words of contact experience than any 791 00:32:21,889 --> 00:32:19,620 other contactee I have encountered thus 792 00:32:23,330 --> 00:32:21,899 far there is a lot here and don't worry 793 00:32:25,130 --> 00:32:23,340 I'll put a link in the show notes like I 794 00:32:27,590 --> 00:32:25,140 said to the complete archive so you can 795 00:32:30,409 --> 00:32:27,600 check it out yourself and I should note 796 00:32:32,930 --> 00:32:30,419 that there's a book of the initial 797 00:32:34,909 --> 00:32:32,940 contacts it's available on Kindle and 798 00:32:37,789 --> 00:32:34,919 it's one of the ebooks made from Wendell 799 00:32:40,789 --> 00:32:37,799 Stevens's editions they all start off 800 00:32:42,529 --> 00:32:40,799 with the title UFO contact from Corin 801 00:32:44,510 --> 00:32:42,539 doors is what they call this one and 802 00:32:47,269 --> 00:32:44,520 while they're inexpensive I warn you 803 00:32:48,350 --> 00:32:47,279 that the formatting is pretty awful on 804 00:32:50,389 --> 00:32:48,360 those books 805 00:32:53,690 --> 00:32:50,399 and I would recommend getting the 806 00:32:56,870 --> 00:32:53,700 information from the official site in uh 807 00:33:00,649 --> 00:32:56,880 in in any case because it's free and 808 00:33:02,930 --> 00:33:00,659 it's the up-to-date stuff and 809 00:33:07,250 --> 00:33:02,940 um you don't have to pay money for a a 810 00:33:09,230 --> 00:33:07,260 subpar basically pdfification of 811 00:33:11,389 --> 00:33:09,240 something that gets turned into a Kindle 812 00:33:15,289 --> 00:33:11,399 book those books are awful 813 00:33:17,750 --> 00:33:15,299 um so anyway uh let's go to August 28 814 00:33:20,330 --> 00:33:17,760 1961 where we learn about something 815 00:33:23,269 --> 00:33:20,340 called the somnivision project what was 816 00:33:27,230 --> 00:33:23,279 the somnivision project Lynn Erie 817 00:33:31,250 --> 00:33:29,149 the operation to which we refer is 818 00:33:33,409 --> 00:33:31,260 called the somnivision project with it 819 00:33:35,330 --> 00:33:33,419 ideas are imprinted into selected people 820 00:33:37,850 --> 00:33:35,340 during sleep which these subjects then 821 00:33:39,230 --> 00:33:37,860 credit to themselves in principle the 822 00:33:41,690 --> 00:33:39,240 human mind is a form of energy 823 00:33:44,269 --> 00:33:41,700 independent in itself of physical bonds 824 00:33:46,310 --> 00:33:44,279 but in practice always associated with 825 00:33:48,769 --> 00:33:46,320 some form of anthropomorphic medium of 826 00:33:50,750 --> 00:33:48,779 expression when in the body each mind 827 00:33:52,370 --> 00:33:50,760 has a distinct frequency of operation 828 00:33:54,289 --> 00:33:52,380 dependent on the particular 829 00:33:56,330 --> 00:33:54,299 characteristics of that brain which it 830 00:33:58,430 --> 00:33:56,340 inhabits while we do not completely 831 00:34:00,529 --> 00:33:58,440 understand it we know that it has to do 832 00:34:05,090 --> 00:34:00,539 with electromagnetic circuit Dimensions 833 00:34:08,869 --> 00:34:07,070 so they've been giving people thoughts 834 00:34:10,389 --> 00:34:08,879 while they sleep and allowing them to 835 00:34:13,790 --> 00:34:10,399 think those thoughts are their own 836 00:34:16,190 --> 00:34:13,800 nothing disturbing about that at all is 837 00:34:18,530 --> 00:34:16,200 there it's explained that it is more 838 00:34:20,810 --> 00:34:18,540 effective to do this while sleeping than 839 00:34:22,609 --> 00:34:20,820 while awake but they're able to 840 00:34:25,730 --> 00:34:22,619 influence people during waking hours but 841 00:34:27,589 --> 00:34:25,740 only subconsciously and this is what 842 00:34:30,649 --> 00:34:27,599 some of our Daydreams might be the 843 00:34:32,810 --> 00:34:30,659 subconscious influencing from the 844 00:34:35,270 --> 00:34:32,820 Corinthians as a result of this 845 00:34:37,550 --> 00:34:35,280 information that has been implanted 846 00:34:39,470 --> 00:34:37,560 through the somnivision project humans 847 00:34:41,990 --> 00:34:39,480 have developed radio and television and 848 00:34:43,669 --> 00:34:42,000 nuclear power and the airplane so if you 849 00:34:46,190 --> 00:34:43,679 think human Ingenuity develop those 850 00:34:49,010 --> 00:34:46,200 things you're wrong it was the space 851 00:34:51,589 --> 00:34:49,020 thought beam thing now they say they can 852 00:34:52,849 --> 00:34:51,599 override the conscious mind but that 853 00:34:55,430 --> 00:34:52,859 would be considered forceful 854 00:34:58,250 --> 00:34:55,440 intervention and is not allowed 855 00:35:02,570 --> 00:34:58,260 so renault's contacts throughout 1961 856 00:35:04,490 --> 00:35:02,580 were over shortwave radio but in 1962 he 857 00:35:08,750 --> 00:35:04,500 would experience a new form of 858 00:35:13,370 --> 00:35:11,630 on December 3rd 1961 I received a 859 00:35:15,170 --> 00:35:13,380 communication detailing how to convert 860 00:35:17,390 --> 00:35:15,180 one of my TVs to receive video 861 00:35:19,130 --> 00:35:17,400 Transmissions from their crafts 862 00:35:21,650 --> 00:35:19,140 involved making many changes and 863 00:35:23,930 --> 00:35:21,660 components within the TV to alter its 864 00:35:25,970 --> 00:35:23,940 operational frequencies I also received 865 00:35:28,069 --> 00:35:25,980 by mail an adapter that connected to the 866 00:35:30,050 --> 00:35:28,079 antenna terminals having completed the 867 00:35:33,230 --> 00:35:30,060 modifications about a week later there 868 00:35:36,050 --> 00:35:33,240 was nothing to do but wait and wait and 869 00:35:40,790 --> 00:35:38,569 receiving Parts in the mail to build a 870 00:35:43,250 --> 00:35:40,800 video screen to talk to aliens reminds 871 00:35:45,589 --> 00:35:43,260 me of building the interociter in the 872 00:35:47,870 --> 00:35:45,599 film this island Earth kind of he 873 00:35:48,910 --> 00:35:47,880 finally has the video contact on January 874 00:35:53,690 --> 00:35:48,920 6 875 00:35:56,990 --> 00:35:53,700 around the solar system and then he's 876 00:36:01,910 --> 00:35:57,000 shown the inside of the ship and he sees 877 00:36:05,390 --> 00:36:03,530 she was a breathtakingly beautiful 878 00:36:06,349 --> 00:36:05,400 blonde lady who appeared to be about 20 879 00:36:08,270 --> 00:36:06,359 years old 880 00:36:10,190 --> 00:36:08,280 stood there quietly for a few moments 881 00:36:12,530 --> 00:36:10,200 knowing no doubt that I wanted to drink 882 00:36:14,930 --> 00:36:12,540 in the details her hair was shoulder 883 00:36:16,790 --> 00:36:14,940 length and softly wavy her skin appeared 884 00:36:18,950 --> 00:36:16,800 to be light and she was every inch a 885 00:36:21,050 --> 00:36:18,960 woman I had asked her in a radio contact 886 00:36:24,470 --> 00:36:21,060 to describe herself and she said I'm 887 00:36:28,250 --> 00:36:24,480 five feet four inches tall 122 pounds 37 888 00:36:30,710 --> 00:36:28,260 24 36 and I'm the equivalent of 74 in 889 00:36:32,089 --> 00:36:30,720 your Earth years in our society that's 890 00:36:34,310 --> 00:36:32,099 the prime of life 891 00:36:35,990 --> 00:36:34,320 after that I had not known quite what to 892 00:36:38,690 --> 00:36:36,000 expect but I looked forward to seeing 893 00:36:41,089 --> 00:36:38,700 her on TV obviously the ladies age very 894 00:36:43,130 --> 00:36:41,099 gracefully on Corridor her clothing was 895 00:36:45,410 --> 00:36:43,140 loose and two-piece rather like the top 896 00:36:47,810 --> 00:36:45,420 and pants of ski clothes but a softer 897 00:36:49,430 --> 00:36:47,820 Shearer material the waist was cinched 898 00:36:51,470 --> 00:36:49,440 in with a band that indicated her 899 00:36:53,630 --> 00:36:51,480 position by its color which she said was 900 00:36:55,370 --> 00:36:53,640 yellow she wore a pin on the right 901 00:36:57,290 --> 00:36:55,380 collar and a tiny chain and lock it 902 00:36:58,670 --> 00:36:57,300 around her neck the shoes were an 903 00:37:00,770 --> 00:36:58,680 integral part of the pants and were 904 00:37:03,410 --> 00:37:00,780 fastened by some sort of elastic just 905 00:37:07,970 --> 00:37:03,420 above the ankle altogether it made an 906 00:37:12,530 --> 00:37:10,190 Now renat notes that there was an 907 00:37:14,150 --> 00:37:12,540 Infamous his words typo concerning her 908 00:37:16,010 --> 00:37:14,160 measurements that have been corrected in 909 00:37:18,290 --> 00:37:16,020 this internet version in the interests 910 00:37:21,349 --> 00:37:18,300 of journalistic Integrity I checked this 911 00:37:23,210 --> 00:37:21,359 out in issue 19 of UFO International and 912 00:37:24,970 --> 00:37:23,220 the overall description is 913 00:37:29,450 --> 00:37:24,980 a little more 914 00:37:31,730 --> 00:37:29,460 1962 than the updated corrected 915 00:37:37,250 --> 00:37:31,740 still a bit 916 00:37:41,750 --> 00:37:39,290 at this point the camera swung directly 917 00:37:43,130 --> 00:37:41,760 on Lin Airy she was a breathtakingly 918 00:37:45,710 --> 00:37:43,140 beautiful blonde who appeared to be 919 00:37:47,510 --> 00:37:45,720 about 18 or 20 years old she stood there 920 00:37:49,010 --> 00:37:47,520 quietly for a few moments knowing no 921 00:37:51,170 --> 00:37:49,020 doubt that I wanted to drink in the 922 00:37:53,450 --> 00:37:51,180 details her hair was shoulder length and 923 00:37:55,790 --> 00:37:53,460 softly wavy her skin appeared to be 924 00:37:58,190 --> 00:37:55,800 light and such a figure I've never seen 925 00:38:00,170 --> 00:37:58,200 talk about stacked I had asked her 926 00:38:01,490 --> 00:38:00,180 earlier in a radio contact to describe 927 00:38:04,490 --> 00:38:01,500 herself and this is what she had said 928 00:38:05,569 --> 00:38:04,500 I'm five feet four inches tall 122 929 00:38:08,990 --> 00:38:05,579 pounds 930 00:38:16,910 --> 00:38:09,000 37 22 26 931 00:38:18,950 --> 00:38:16,920 then had come another shocker I'm the 932 00:38:20,870 --> 00:38:18,960 equivalent of 74 of your years of age 933 00:38:21,829 --> 00:38:20,880 which in our society is the prime of 934 00:38:23,750 --> 00:38:21,839 life 935 00:38:25,430 --> 00:38:23,760 after that I had not known quite what to 936 00:38:27,890 --> 00:38:25,440 expect but I looked forward to seeing 937 00:38:29,450 --> 00:38:27,900 her on TV so this was really startling I 938 00:38:31,010 --> 00:38:29,460 can't say it detracted from our Total 939 00:38:33,050 --> 00:38:31,020 Image to know how old she actually was 940 00:38:35,810 --> 00:38:33,060 because who cares if she looks like that 941 00:38:37,430 --> 00:38:35,820 wow just the side of all that loveliness 942 00:38:39,230 --> 00:38:37,440 was enough incentive for me to renew my 943 00:38:40,849 --> 00:38:39,240 vow to carry out all the Corinthians 944 00:38:43,550 --> 00:38:40,859 wishes to the limits of my abilities 945 00:38:46,849 --> 00:38:43,560 just for Lynn area alone I would move 946 00:38:51,050 --> 00:38:49,730 settle down Bob and from there on the 947 00:38:53,150 --> 00:38:51,060 description of the clothing is identical 948 00:38:58,730 --> 00:38:53,160 and and yes those 949 00:39:01,849 --> 00:38:58,740 um those those measurements uh 37 22 26. 950 00:39:04,130 --> 00:39:01,859 that I don't think that works very well 951 00:39:06,290 --> 00:39:04,140 I do think it's interesting that he 952 00:39:08,089 --> 00:39:06,300 chose to slightly revise the description 953 00:39:11,930 --> 00:39:08,099 to be a little less creepy and fawning 954 00:39:15,170 --> 00:39:11,940 but decided even in the updated sort of 955 00:39:17,450 --> 00:39:15,180 less horny version he still thinks we 956 00:39:19,430 --> 00:39:17,460 need to know her measurements so we've 957 00:39:21,829 --> 00:39:19,440 gone from Radio Transmissions to 958 00:39:24,410 --> 00:39:21,839 television transmissions and later in 959 00:39:26,990 --> 00:39:24,420 1962 there would be the first of many 960 00:39:29,030 --> 00:39:27,000 personal contacts between Renaud and the 961 00:39:33,109 --> 00:39:29,040 Corinthians and the first one took place 962 00:39:35,630 --> 00:39:33,119 on December 29 1962 and Bob's account of 963 00:39:38,870 --> 00:39:35,640 this opens in a pretty straightforward 964 00:39:42,470 --> 00:39:40,970 ordinarily in writing about personally 965 00:39:44,810 --> 00:39:42,480 meeting our brothers from Beyond the 966 00:39:47,329 --> 00:39:44,820 night contactees seem to feel Duty bound 967 00:39:49,609 --> 00:39:47,339 to include every little detail not so 968 00:39:51,109 --> 00:39:49,619 with me objectively speaking there is no 969 00:39:52,550 --> 00:39:51,119 benefit gained from knowing that the 970 00:39:54,650 --> 00:39:52,560 space man is partial to peanut butter 971 00:39:56,930 --> 00:39:54,660 sandwiches or likes to get Green Stamps 972 00:39:58,609 --> 00:39:56,940 with his purchases what is vital is the 973 00:40:00,890 --> 00:39:58,619 message they bring the wisdom they 974 00:40:02,750 --> 00:40:00,900 display the compassion and understanding 975 00:40:04,910 --> 00:40:02,760 for earthians that is inherent in all 976 00:40:07,190 --> 00:40:04,920 their personalities therefore I think it 977 00:40:10,609 --> 00:40:07,200 best to forego trivia in favor of that 978 00:40:14,990 --> 00:40:12,829 of course I have to note that he has no 979 00:40:17,030 --> 00:40:15,000 problem including every possible bit of 980 00:40:19,490 --> 00:40:17,040 technical trivia of everything so 981 00:40:22,130 --> 00:40:19,500 basically it's best to forego trivia he 982 00:40:24,050 --> 00:40:22,140 doesn't personally find interesting in 983 00:40:26,210 --> 00:40:24,060 favor of that which is Paramount 984 00:40:27,829 --> 00:40:26,220 honestly I might be more interested in 985 00:40:30,230 --> 00:40:27,839 whether or not they eat peanut butter 986 00:40:31,970 --> 00:40:30,240 sandwiches the contact itself is kind of 987 00:40:34,130 --> 00:40:31,980 low-key he receives instructions in the 988 00:40:35,630 --> 00:40:34,140 mail he says he meets them at two in the 989 00:40:38,150 --> 00:40:35,640 morning in front of his house and they 990 00:40:40,310 --> 00:40:38,160 they Drive South for several miles turn 991 00:40:42,050 --> 00:40:40,320 on a dirt road and enter a tent-like 992 00:40:43,910 --> 00:40:42,060 shelter that was made of a transparent 993 00:40:46,430 --> 00:40:43,920 material and they sit down and start 994 00:40:48,650 --> 00:40:46,440 talking no Flying Saucer no magical 995 00:40:50,810 --> 00:40:48,660 transport beams nothing like that 996 00:40:53,329 --> 00:40:50,820 the aliens show Bob a number of items 997 00:40:56,030 --> 00:40:53,339 including an anti-gravity device and a 998 00:40:58,250 --> 00:40:56,040 weapon that they demonstrate that melts 999 00:41:00,170 --> 00:40:58,260 able is able to melt rock I guess is the 1000 00:41:02,210 --> 00:41:00,180 best way to say it they also give Bob 1001 00:41:03,710 --> 00:41:02,220 some film to develop with instructions 1002 00:41:06,170 --> 00:41:03,720 that he is not to show the resulting 1003 00:41:07,609 --> 00:41:06,180 pictures to anyone Bob noted that he 1004 00:41:10,430 --> 00:41:07,619 returned the negatives to them quote 1005 00:41:13,370 --> 00:41:10,440 because they showed far too much end 1006 00:41:15,230 --> 00:41:13,380 quote in an update Bob provides some 1007 00:41:16,970 --> 00:41:15,240 corroborating evidence about the site 1008 00:41:20,089 --> 00:41:16,980 where he met the two space brothers and 1009 00:41:23,270 --> 00:41:20,099 their names by the way were Ori Vol a 1010 00:41:26,510 --> 00:41:23,280 mathematician and Gary Soul an 1011 00:41:30,050 --> 00:41:26,520 electronic engineer it's Gary g-e-r-y so 1012 00:41:33,770 --> 00:41:30,060 you know it's alien and sencore who is a 1013 00:41:38,089 --> 00:41:36,710 in May of 1963 a couple of residents of 1014 00:41:40,069 --> 00:41:38,099 the town where the meeting was held were 1015 00:41:41,390 --> 00:41:40,079 hiking along the dirt road They Came 1016 00:41:43,250 --> 00:41:41,400 Upon the side of the meeting and found 1017 00:41:44,990 --> 00:41:43,260 the rock that had been melted it had 1018 00:41:46,730 --> 00:41:45,000 spread in a rough Circle as it cooled 1019 00:41:48,829 --> 00:41:46,740 forming an anomaly for which they had no 1020 00:41:50,569 --> 00:41:48,839 explanation they apparently contacted 1021 00:41:53,210 --> 00:41:50,579 some authorities beyond the local police 1022 00:41:54,890 --> 00:41:53,220 it was not reported in the media so I 1023 00:41:56,810 --> 00:41:54,900 assumed that it was suppressed 1024 00:41:58,490 --> 00:41:56,820 Word of Mouth reports indicated that a 1025 00:42:00,770 --> 00:41:58,500 few military vehicles were seen in the 1026 00:42:02,630 --> 00:42:00,780 area the day after the discovery the 1027 00:42:04,310 --> 00:42:02,640 following day an unmarked winch equipped 1028 00:42:06,530 --> 00:42:04,320 flatbed truck of the type used for 1029 00:42:08,150 --> 00:42:06,540 carrying wrecked cars went up the dirt 1030 00:42:09,950 --> 00:42:08,160 road and came out with something on the 1031 00:42:12,230 --> 00:42:09,960 bed that was covered with a canvas 1032 00:42:14,030 --> 00:42:12,240 Tarpon no doubt the rock sits in a 1033 00:42:16,790 --> 00:42:14,040 warehouse or storage site somewhere and 1034 00:42:18,710 --> 00:42:16,800 every so often someone wonders where the 1035 00:42:24,410 --> 00:42:18,720 hell did that thing come from 1036 00:42:28,730 --> 00:42:26,810 so the nice thing about the organization 1037 00:42:30,349 --> 00:42:28,740 these contact reports on the website is 1038 00:42:32,810 --> 00:42:30,359 that there's some indication of the main 1039 00:42:34,190 --> 00:42:32,820 topic of the content this sounds like a 1040 00:42:35,510 --> 00:42:34,200 simple thing but when you've plowed 1041 00:42:37,490 --> 00:42:35,520 through hundreds of pages looking for 1042 00:42:39,890 --> 00:42:37,500 something interesting to talk about you 1043 00:42:41,450 --> 00:42:39,900 appreciate little things like knowing 1044 00:42:43,910 --> 00:42:41,460 the report you click on is going to talk 1045 00:42:46,970 --> 00:42:43,920 about television contacts or whatever or 1046 00:42:49,270 --> 00:42:46,980 for example a report entitled racism 1047 00:42:51,829 --> 00:42:49,280 space brothers and sisters this is 1048 00:42:53,329 --> 00:42:51,839 1962-ish remember space brothers and 1049 00:42:55,250 --> 00:42:53,339 sisters acknowledge that racism 1050 00:42:58,010 --> 00:42:55,260 discrimination and segregation are wrong 1051 00:42:59,809 --> 00:42:58,020 but emphasize that the protesting 1052 00:43:01,609 --> 00:42:59,819 tactics of the Civil Rights Movement are 1053 00:43:03,589 --> 00:43:01,619 counterproductive because they will 1054 00:43:06,050 --> 00:43:03,599 scare off potential allies and they tell 1055 00:43:08,390 --> 00:43:06,060 African Americans quote have patience 1056 00:43:10,250 --> 00:43:08,400 you have waited this long what are a few 1057 00:43:12,410 --> 00:43:10,260 more months don't do anything you'll 1058 00:43:15,470 --> 00:43:12,420 regret you have a good cause don't 1059 00:43:16,970 --> 00:43:15,480 debase it by rashness and they have a 1060 00:43:19,010 --> 00:43:16,980 different message for the people they 1061 00:43:22,370 --> 00:43:19,020 sarcastically refer to as the white 1062 00:43:26,809 --> 00:43:24,650 to the white Supermen we can only say as 1063 00:43:28,970 --> 00:43:26,819 your hipsters might phrase it like come 1064 00:43:30,890 --> 00:43:28,980 off that gig man split the Dark Ages 1065 00:43:33,050 --> 00:43:30,900 scene and get grooved to the 20th 1066 00:43:34,790 --> 00:43:33,060 century 1067 00:43:36,650 --> 00:43:34,800 a helpful message from the space 1068 00:43:38,750 --> 00:43:36,660 Brothers to be sure 1069 00:43:40,609 --> 00:43:38,760 we also get another discussion of the 1070 00:43:42,410 --> 00:43:40,619 Flying Saucer scene with the space 1071 00:43:44,450 --> 00:43:42,420 brothers and sisters explaining that the 1072 00:43:46,490 --> 00:43:44,460 best thing to happen would be a 1073 00:43:48,349 --> 00:43:46,500 worldwide unification movement of 1074 00:43:50,870 --> 00:43:48,359 various Flying Saucer clubs and 1075 00:43:52,370 --> 00:43:50,880 organizations such as Gabriel green is 1076 00:43:54,530 --> 00:43:52,380 attempting to do with his Amalgamated 1077 00:43:56,690 --> 00:43:54,540 Flying Saucer clubs of America 1078 00:43:58,849 --> 00:43:56,700 and I really hope green was paying for 1079 00:44:00,589 --> 00:43:58,859 this good press another topic that 1080 00:44:04,069 --> 00:44:00,599 caught my eye was the contact from 1081 00:44:07,250 --> 00:44:04,079 November 25th 1963 on the assassination 1082 00:44:10,550 --> 00:44:07,260 of John F Kennedy Lynn Airy reported the 1083 00:44:14,930 --> 00:44:12,770 we greet you in great sorrow this day 1084 00:44:17,150 --> 00:44:14,940 brother the events of these past few 1085 00:44:19,190 --> 00:44:17,160 days have filled us with sadness 1086 00:44:21,650 --> 00:44:19,200 last Friday would long be remembered by 1087 00:44:23,569 --> 00:44:21,660 your people and ours for it occasion to 1088 00:44:26,630 --> 00:44:23,579 the tragic loss of a truly great man and 1089 00:44:28,370 --> 00:44:26,640 leader John F Kennedy we were in the 1090 00:44:30,829 --> 00:44:28,380 process of planning a contact with them 1091 00:44:32,630 --> 00:44:30,839 when the news reached us immediately all 1092 00:44:34,970 --> 00:44:32,640 operations ceased and we rushed to the 1093 00:44:36,950 --> 00:44:34,980 communications center here on Mars as we 1094 00:44:38,450 --> 00:44:36,960 entered radio receivers monitoring Earth 1095 00:44:40,910 --> 00:44:38,460 frequencies were proclaiming the 1096 00:44:43,190 --> 00:44:40,920 distressing news John F Kennedy had been 1097 00:44:44,930 --> 00:44:43,200 assassinated and was dying 1098 00:44:46,730 --> 00:44:44,940 in a matter of moments this news 1099 00:44:49,190 --> 00:44:46,740 transmission had been switched onto the 1100 00:44:51,470 --> 00:44:49,200 universal broadcasting relay and all the 1101 00:44:52,910 --> 00:44:51,480 alliance was informed within 30 minutes 1102 00:44:55,069 --> 00:44:52,920 an official day of mourning was 1103 00:44:56,870 --> 00:44:55,079 proclaimed for the entire Alliance which 1104 00:44:58,970 --> 00:44:56,880 was to be the day of his funeral the 1105 00:45:01,609 --> 00:44:58,980 radios having sadly reported that John F 1106 00:45:03,470 --> 00:45:01,619 Kennedy had died flags on all worlds 1107 00:45:05,270 --> 00:45:03,480 were flown at half-mast a simple never 1108 00:45:07,010 --> 00:45:05,280 before seen since our means of 1109 00:45:08,870 --> 00:45:07,020 indicating death of a high official are 1110 00:45:10,730 --> 00:45:08,880 very different this had a great 1111 00:45:12,650 --> 00:45:10,740 emotional effect on all of us and more 1112 00:45:18,530 --> 00:45:12,660 than ever we felt a Oneness with the 1113 00:45:23,210 --> 00:45:21,230 they're also able to get camera discs 1114 00:45:24,829 --> 00:45:23,220 placed in the correct locations on Earth 1115 00:45:26,809 --> 00:45:24,839 to be able to watch the entire funeral 1116 00:45:28,309 --> 00:45:26,819 procession and funeral which was 1117 00:45:31,609 --> 00:45:28,319 broadcast instead of the regular 1118 00:45:33,829 --> 00:45:31,619 programming on all Alliance planets now 1119 00:45:35,990 --> 00:45:33,839 we are going to finish this first part 1120 00:45:38,690 --> 00:45:36,000 of our exploration of Bob Bernard's 1121 00:45:40,609 --> 00:45:38,700 experiences with his tour of a base in 1122 00:45:43,730 --> 00:45:40,619 Massachusetts that took place on 1123 00:45:46,250 --> 00:45:43,740 December 7th 1963. it was a cold 1124 00:45:48,109 --> 00:45:46,260 Saturday morning and Bob got up at 4am 1125 00:45:50,569 --> 00:45:48,119 after being woken by a telepathic 1126 00:45:52,970 --> 00:45:50,579 message Ori Vol said they were going to 1127 00:45:54,770 --> 00:45:52,980 pick him up in an hour and to be ready 1128 00:45:57,589 --> 00:45:54,780 Bob wanted to know if he could bring his 1129 00:46:00,050 --> 00:45:57,599 camera and his tape recorder but was 1130 00:46:01,790 --> 00:46:00,060 told not that's a little predictable Bob 1131 00:46:04,430 --> 00:46:01,800 should have known better now this is 1132 00:46:07,490 --> 00:46:04,440 interesting as the car pulls up someone 1133 00:46:13,010 --> 00:46:10,730 the door swung open and I stepped out of 1134 00:46:15,770 --> 00:46:13,020 the car here was the man who would be my 1135 00:46:17,809 --> 00:46:15,780 substitute for this and future contacts 1136 00:46:19,910 --> 00:46:17,819 say that he was my spitting image would 1137 00:46:21,349 --> 00:46:19,920 be the understatement of the century we 1138 00:46:23,390 --> 00:46:21,359 shook hands in the standard form of 1139 00:46:25,250 --> 00:46:23,400 greeting and he said to me and what I 1140 00:46:26,809 --> 00:46:25,260 assumed was my voice few people 1141 00:46:28,849 --> 00:46:26,819 recognized their own voice from an 1142 00:46:31,609 --> 00:46:28,859 external Source have no fear brother 1143 00:46:33,170 --> 00:46:31,619 nobody will be the wiser I studied you 1144 00:46:35,150 --> 00:46:33,180 long enough to automatically react 1145 00:46:37,730 --> 00:46:35,160 exactly as you would in any given 1146 00:46:39,710 --> 00:46:37,740 situation if I get away with this it'll 1147 00:46:43,430 --> 00:46:39,720 be a great topic of conversation when 1148 00:46:47,329 --> 00:46:45,650 this is really clever Bob's going to be 1149 00:46:48,950 --> 00:46:47,339 gone for a while and people might wonder 1150 00:46:52,609 --> 00:46:48,960 where he is right I mean he lives with 1151 00:46:54,890 --> 00:46:52,619 his parents so they might be curious so 1152 00:46:56,450 --> 00:46:54,900 we solved the problem not by erasing 1153 00:46:58,849 --> 00:46:56,460 people's minds so they don't remember 1154 00:47:01,190 --> 00:46:58,859 him being gone or traveling back in time 1155 00:47:03,170 --> 00:47:01,200 to five minutes after he left no we're 1156 00:47:06,050 --> 00:47:03,180 gonna have somebody pretend to be Bob 1157 00:47:08,150 --> 00:47:06,060 while Bob is off with the space Brothers 1158 00:47:09,890 --> 00:47:08,160 I don't think I've ever seen anything 1159 00:47:13,970 --> 00:47:09,900 like this before 1160 00:47:15,890 --> 00:47:13,980 um and what's great is it's completely 1161 00:47:18,470 --> 00:47:15,900 I don't I don't want to say plausible 1162 00:47:21,470 --> 00:47:18,480 but you know if if you were to ask the 1163 00:47:23,390 --> 00:47:21,480 question well Mr anad if you were off 1164 00:47:25,970 --> 00:47:23,400 seeing this underground base in 1165 00:47:28,430 --> 00:47:25,980 Massachusetts why didn't your parents in 1166 00:47:29,569 --> 00:47:28,440 whose home you lived noticed that you 1167 00:47:32,569 --> 00:47:29,579 were gone 1168 00:47:35,510 --> 00:47:32,579 well they're my alien double was there 1169 00:47:37,490 --> 00:47:35,520 and he's able to react exactly as I 1170 00:47:38,750 --> 00:47:37,500 would in any situation 1171 00:47:40,849 --> 00:47:38,760 oh well 1172 00:47:43,309 --> 00:47:40,859 gosh no further questions 1173 00:47:44,870 --> 00:47:43,319 so Bob and his friends fly in a craft 1174 00:47:46,550 --> 00:47:44,880 which goes on for a while and then it 1175 00:47:48,349 --> 00:47:46,560 goes through an opening that appears in 1176 00:47:50,930 --> 00:47:48,359 the earth it's an actual underground 1177 00:47:53,210 --> 00:47:50,940 base the space Brothers gain entry by 1178 00:47:56,030 --> 00:47:53,220 inserting an ID card into a card reader 1179 00:47:57,890 --> 00:47:56,040 and they're riding along the conveyor 1180 00:47:59,809 --> 00:47:57,900 belt basically moving sidewalk it's it's 1181 00:48:05,329 --> 00:47:59,819 like the airport they go through some 1182 00:48:10,190 --> 00:48:08,030 we entered a small room it was about 20 1183 00:48:13,010 --> 00:48:10,200 by 20 and the ceiling was 12 feet high 1184 00:48:14,809 --> 00:48:13,020 it glowed a soft cream white the floor 1185 00:48:17,089 --> 00:48:14,819 was carpeted wall to wall with a thick 1186 00:48:19,309 --> 00:48:17,099 mint green covering to our left was a 1187 00:48:21,410 --> 00:48:19,319 young and very lovely girl seated at a 1188 00:48:24,230 --> 00:48:21,420 modern style desk apparently of mahogany 1189 00:48:26,210 --> 00:48:24,240 and highly polished she greeted us with 1190 00:48:27,890 --> 00:48:26,220 a smile and said good morning Brothers I 1191 00:48:30,410 --> 00:48:27,900 have the security pass here for our 1192 00:48:32,390 --> 00:48:30,420 Terran guest she then motioned me over 1193 00:48:35,270 --> 00:48:32,400 to the desk and asked me to sign my name 1194 00:48:37,190 --> 00:48:35,280 on a line on a form the pen I used was a 1195 00:48:39,770 --> 00:48:37,200 special type that deposits a magnetic 1196 00:48:42,109 --> 00:48:39,780 ink when this had been done she inserted 1197 00:48:43,730 --> 00:48:42,119 the card into a device on the desk an 1198 00:48:45,950 --> 00:48:43,740 indicator light pulsed red and then 1199 00:48:50,630 --> 00:48:45,960 glowed green the processing will take a 1200 00:48:55,490 --> 00:48:53,329 one thing I cannot get over is how 1201 00:48:57,589 --> 00:48:55,500 everything he experiences on these 1202 00:48:59,690 --> 00:48:57,599 spacecraft seems 1203 00:49:02,930 --> 00:48:59,700 very Earth-like 1204 00:49:04,550 --> 00:49:02,940 security cards moving sidewalks it's 1205 00:49:07,750 --> 00:49:04,560 basically 1206 00:49:12,290 --> 00:49:07,760 the future as imagined in 1207 00:49:15,349 --> 00:49:12,300 1963. so which isn't which isn't strange 1208 00:49:19,010 --> 00:49:15,359 for contacty stuff I mean I'm obviously 1209 00:49:22,849 --> 00:49:19,020 but it just strikes me it's the colors 1210 00:49:26,210 --> 00:49:22,859 the mahogany desk the female secretary 1211 00:49:29,089 --> 00:49:26,220 the the security pass it's all very 1212 00:49:30,950 --> 00:49:29,099 Earth-like Bob does get his security 1213 00:49:32,870 --> 00:49:30,960 pass eventually and they continue to 1214 00:49:35,450 --> 00:49:32,880 explore the base they come to the 1215 00:49:40,130 --> 00:49:35,460 communications room and we check in with 1216 00:49:44,990 --> 00:49:42,530 the room was about 50 feet to a side and 1217 00:49:47,089 --> 00:49:45,000 15 feet high it was full of electronic 1218 00:49:49,069 --> 00:49:47,099 equipment a lot of it unknown to me we 1219 00:49:51,349 --> 00:49:49,079 went over to a panel manned by a lovely 1220 00:49:53,510 --> 00:49:51,359 brunette or eval spoke to her in 1221 00:49:55,609 --> 00:49:53,520 corindian it has a beautiful musical 1222 00:49:57,530 --> 00:49:55,619 quality and she Rose from her seat for a 1223 00:49:59,870 --> 00:49:57,540 second to close the switch above her 1224 00:50:02,390 --> 00:49:59,880 seconds later I saw on a screen my 1225 00:50:04,370 --> 00:50:02,400 double sitting on the couch in my room 1226 00:50:07,309 --> 00:50:04,380 I thought to myself so the transceiver 1227 00:50:09,290 --> 00:50:07,319 is TV too I might as well have spoken as 1228 00:50:10,910 --> 00:50:09,300 the young lady said yes in full color 1229 00:50:13,010 --> 00:50:10,920 and depth as well 1230 00:50:15,109 --> 00:50:13,020 Ori asked would you like to speak to him 1231 00:50:17,210 --> 00:50:15,119 I said yes and he handed me a mic 1232 00:50:19,550 --> 00:50:17,220 apparently he was watching us also 1233 00:50:21,589 --> 00:50:19,560 because he spoke first your mother is a 1234 00:50:23,870 --> 00:50:21,599 delightful woman Bob and your father's a 1235 00:50:25,490 --> 00:50:23,880 good man I've been psych probing and 1236 00:50:27,650 --> 00:50:25,500 I've learned much you're two animal 1237 00:50:29,630 --> 00:50:27,660 friends here are with me now and we are 1238 00:50:31,309 --> 00:50:29,640 getting along famously I expect we'll 1239 00:50:33,470 --> 00:50:31,319 have no difficulty here 1240 00:50:35,030 --> 00:50:33,480 I asked did you have any trouble finding 1241 00:50:36,890 --> 00:50:35,040 everything brother I have a large 1242 00:50:39,170 --> 00:50:36,900 variety of literature available in the 1243 00:50:42,650 --> 00:50:39,180 cabinet over there in the enclosed area 1244 00:50:44,329 --> 00:50:42,660 ah yes so I discovered I'm torn at the 1245 00:50:46,490 --> 00:50:44,339 moment between your stacks of scientific 1246 00:50:48,829 --> 00:50:46,500 Americans and your Playboys both appeal 1247 00:50:51,349 --> 00:50:48,839 greatly to me for different reasons to 1248 00:50:54,290 --> 00:50:51,359 be sure he winked and smiled devilishly 1249 00:50:56,630 --> 00:50:54,300 I see that Ln finds my remarks a bit 1250 00:50:58,190 --> 00:50:56,640 embarrassing but after all once you can 1251 00:51:00,049 --> 00:50:58,200 tear yourself away from the centerfold 1252 00:51:01,069 --> 00:51:00,059 there's much of great interest to be 1253 00:51:03,470 --> 00:51:01,079 read 1254 00:51:05,750 --> 00:51:03,480 Ln the girl at the controls was blushing 1255 00:51:07,970 --> 00:51:05,760 a bit she said Arta you have a lecherous 1256 00:51:12,650 --> 00:51:07,980 mind they both laughed and the signal 1257 00:51:17,329 --> 00:51:15,410 found your porn good stuff this might be 1258 00:51:20,329 --> 00:51:17,339 one of the greatest passages in any 1259 00:51:21,410 --> 00:51:20,339 contact the account I I just I just love 1260 00:51:23,510 --> 00:51:21,420 this 1261 00:51:26,450 --> 00:51:23,520 um your mom's great your dad's a swell 1262 00:51:29,809 --> 00:51:26,460 guy your pets are awesome and check out 1263 00:51:32,150 --> 00:51:29,819 Miss January it's just it's just strange 1264 00:51:34,010 --> 00:51:32,160 leaving the communications room our crew 1265 00:51:35,990 --> 00:51:34,020 examines other areas such as the power 1266 00:51:38,630 --> 00:51:36,000 generation area and the main computer 1267 00:51:40,370 --> 00:51:38,640 control room there's also an area where 1268 00:51:42,410 --> 00:51:40,380 newly arrived visitors are conditioned 1269 00:51:45,109 --> 00:51:42,420 to the atmosphere on Earth as was 1270 00:51:47,089 --> 00:51:45,119 discussed earlier finally we're able to 1271 00:51:48,589 --> 00:51:47,099 meet one of the Masters Bob's 1272 00:51:50,930 --> 00:51:48,599 descriptions of the alien base are 1273 00:51:53,089 --> 00:51:50,940 pretty detailed and they sound way more 1274 00:51:55,849 --> 00:51:53,099 enticing than some of the alien bases 1275 00:51:57,710 --> 00:51:55,859 we've discussed previously he says that 1276 00:52:00,530 --> 00:51:57,720 the wall it's wall-to-wall carpeting 1277 00:52:02,750 --> 00:52:00,540 it's light blue with piles so thick it 1278 00:52:05,210 --> 00:52:02,760 seemed to be a solid Mass 1279 00:52:07,730 --> 00:52:05,220 um it's a pleasure to walk on he says 1280 00:52:10,069 --> 00:52:07,740 the walls are painted sort of a creamy 1281 00:52:13,250 --> 00:52:10,079 white which contrasts Tastefully with 1282 00:52:15,589 --> 00:52:13,260 the rug in his words on the far wall a 1283 00:52:17,329 --> 00:52:15,599 large painting of ageless life hung by 1284 00:52:20,569 --> 00:52:17,339 itself and all its commanding Beauty 1285 00:52:22,730 --> 00:52:20,579 here and there flowering plants filled 1286 00:52:24,710 --> 00:52:22,740 the air with a delicate perfume now 1287 00:52:27,230 --> 00:52:24,720 these plants they look like roses but 1288 00:52:29,450 --> 00:52:27,240 they're a darker red and they feel like 1289 00:52:32,630 --> 00:52:29,460 satin when you touch them there's also 1290 00:52:36,290 --> 00:52:32,640 photo of their Homeworld and Furnishings 1291 00:52:39,890 --> 00:52:36,300 that are all in blue sort of a darker 1292 00:52:42,349 --> 00:52:39,900 blue than the overhead Sky he says and 1293 00:52:45,109 --> 00:52:42,359 they all seem to be covered in velvet so 1294 00:52:47,030 --> 00:52:45,119 there's there's five chairs and two long 1295 00:52:50,089 --> 00:52:47,040 sort of sectionals that that curve 1296 00:52:53,569 --> 00:52:50,099 around the corners of the room and it's 1297 00:52:55,970 --> 00:52:53,579 a really relaxing relaxing place he says 1298 00:52:58,250 --> 00:52:55,980 and they wait for a while and they offer 1299 00:52:59,870 --> 00:52:58,260 Bob magazines most of which seem to be 1300 00:53:02,510 --> 00:52:59,880 alien versions of 1301 00:53:04,790 --> 00:53:02,520 science magazines there's no alien 1302 00:53:08,150 --> 00:53:04,800 equivalent of Playboy from what we can 1303 00:53:10,309 --> 00:53:08,160 hear but it's probably a good thing that 1304 00:53:12,829 --> 00:53:10,319 Bob wasn't looking at such stuff because 1305 00:53:17,089 --> 00:53:12,839 soon someone special enters the room 1306 00:53:22,190 --> 00:53:17,099 it's Lynn Airy in as he says all of her 1307 00:53:26,390 --> 00:53:24,230 it is very difficult at this point to 1308 00:53:29,030 --> 00:53:26,400 describe my emotions she came directly 1309 00:53:31,010 --> 00:53:29,040 to me took my hand and hers and spoke in 1310 00:53:33,650 --> 00:53:31,020 her soft melodic voice 1311 00:53:34,970 --> 00:53:33,660 we of corindor bid you welcome to our 1312 00:53:37,130 --> 00:53:34,980 humble abode 1313 00:53:38,930 --> 00:53:37,140 if she had recited the first 10 pages of 1314 00:53:41,150 --> 00:53:38,940 the phone book I could not have been 1315 00:53:43,490 --> 00:53:41,160 less thrilled just to be in the same 1316 00:53:47,270 --> 00:53:43,500 room with this Athena was more than I 1317 00:53:52,069 --> 00:53:49,730 once again Bob I urge you to settle down 1318 00:53:54,710 --> 00:53:52,079 along with Lynn Airy is the master 1319 00:53:57,710 --> 00:53:54,720 Callan Lee who prefers just to be called 1320 00:53:59,750 --> 00:53:57,720 Callan Collins conversation topics are 1321 00:54:01,490 --> 00:53:59,760 mostly related to current offense he's 1322 00:54:03,950 --> 00:54:01,500 happy that there's been a bit of a thaw 1323 00:54:05,390 --> 00:54:03,960 in the Cold War but also concerned that 1324 00:54:06,950 --> 00:54:05,400 there are still people who believe that 1325 00:54:09,349 --> 00:54:06,960 Bloodshed is the only way to solve 1326 00:54:10,849 --> 00:54:09,359 problems still the space brothers are 1327 00:54:12,650 --> 00:54:10,859 confident that humanity is moving 1328 00:54:14,809 --> 00:54:12,660 towards some kind of global government 1329 00:54:17,270 --> 00:54:14,819 another thing that the master is happy 1330 00:54:19,309 --> 00:54:17,280 about is that Linus Pauling has received 1331 00:54:21,770 --> 00:54:19,319 the Nobel Prize for his work because his 1332 00:54:24,589 --> 00:54:21,780 motivations they say are humanitarianism 1333 00:54:26,690 --> 00:54:24,599 and love of his fellows those are the 1334 00:54:28,370 --> 00:54:26,700 same qualities that Bob needs to have if 1335 00:54:29,870 --> 00:54:28,380 he's going to continue to be the space 1336 00:54:32,270 --> 00:54:29,880 Brothers Messenger to the people of 1337 00:54:33,890 --> 00:54:32,280 Earth and then the master explains he 1338 00:54:35,809 --> 00:54:33,900 has a message for Bob from one of his 1339 00:54:39,049 --> 00:54:35,819 neighbors daughters who's about five 1340 00:54:41,750 --> 00:54:39,059 years old the note reads as follows 1341 00:54:44,510 --> 00:54:41,760 brother Earthman she says my name is 1342 00:54:47,930 --> 00:54:44,520 killer Ray which sounds like the best 1343 00:54:50,030 --> 00:54:47,940 rap name ever it's killer is is part of 1344 00:54:52,970 --> 00:54:50,040 our our group now he's going to say a 1345 00:54:54,829 --> 00:54:52,980 few words but killer a um says my name 1346 00:54:56,329 --> 00:54:54,839 is killer Ray and I should like to tell 1347 00:54:58,430 --> 00:54:56,339 you something which is my own personal 1348 00:55:00,829 --> 00:54:58,440 belief I think most of the other 1349 00:55:03,650 --> 00:55:00,839 children feel this way too but I didn't 1350 00:55:06,770 --> 00:55:03,660 ask them about it anyway I like this kid 1351 00:55:08,930 --> 00:55:06,780 she just says what she wants I often ask 1352 00:55:10,430 --> 00:55:08,940 my mother and father about Earth I think 1353 00:55:12,109 --> 00:55:10,440 they don't like to talk about it because 1354 00:55:12,890 --> 00:55:12,119 they say I'm too young to know about 1355 00:55:15,290 --> 00:55:12,900 Earth 1356 00:55:18,410 --> 00:55:15,300 probably because they know about Bob's 1357 00:55:20,750 --> 00:55:18,420 Playboys I know all about karendor and 1358 00:55:22,490 --> 00:55:20,760 aklondi and arcturia but no one will 1359 00:55:25,250 --> 00:55:22,500 tell me about Earth so I'm gonna ask 1360 00:55:26,870 --> 00:55:25,260 Master Colin Lee to give this to you I 1361 00:55:28,970 --> 00:55:26,880 want to know and love earth like all the 1362 00:55:30,530 --> 00:55:28,980 other worlds my mother and father don't 1363 00:55:32,390 --> 00:55:30,540 know I'm doing this or they might stop 1364 00:55:34,609 --> 00:55:32,400 me so please don't let them know about 1365 00:55:37,010 --> 00:55:34,619 this letter if you see them is something 1366 00:55:39,049 --> 00:55:37,020 wrong on Earth brother Earthman do you 1367 00:55:40,549 --> 00:55:39,059 live as we do or are all the stories I 1368 00:55:42,890 --> 00:55:40,559 hear from grown-ups about how you don't 1369 00:55:44,569 --> 00:55:42,900 love each other really true I don't want 1370 00:55:47,030 --> 00:55:44,579 to think that you do not love and live 1371 00:55:49,309 --> 00:55:47,040 as we do on karendor that would make me 1372 00:55:51,589 --> 00:55:49,319 very sad please write to me brother 1373 00:55:53,530 --> 00:55:51,599 Earthman and tell me things about your 1374 00:55:56,809 --> 00:55:53,540 world that will make me happy for you 1375 00:55:59,450 --> 00:55:56,819 lovingly yours killer Ray 1376 00:56:00,710 --> 00:55:59,460 Bob is very concerned that it's going to 1377 00:56:02,630 --> 00:56:00,720 be difficult to tell this little girl 1378 00:56:04,190 --> 00:56:02,640 that Earth is not as good and kind and 1379 00:56:05,569 --> 00:56:04,200 loving as the other planet she talks 1380 00:56:08,990 --> 00:56:05,579 about so he's gonna have to take some 1381 00:56:10,609 --> 00:56:09,000 time to properly frame his response the 1382 00:56:12,530 --> 00:56:10,619 master is okay with that and explains 1383 00:56:14,030 --> 00:56:12,540 that the little girl is taught as all 1384 00:56:16,309 --> 00:56:14,040 the children on the planet are taught 1385 00:56:19,130 --> 00:56:16,319 and that Humanity has a long way to go 1386 00:56:21,650 --> 00:56:19,140 to get even to where that little girl 1387 00:56:24,349 --> 00:56:21,660 and the other children on the planet are 1388 00:56:26,210 --> 00:56:24,359 as far as their spiritual maturity 1389 00:56:28,069 --> 00:56:26,220 there's another discussion about the 1390 00:56:30,290 --> 00:56:28,079 dangers of atomic power and atomic 1391 00:56:33,530 --> 00:56:30,300 weapons and that if Humanity gets to 1392 00:56:35,270 --> 00:56:33,540 survive then Humanity must turn our we 1393 00:56:36,410 --> 00:56:35,280 must turn our science rather to Peaceful 1394 00:56:39,770 --> 00:56:36,420 uses 1395 00:56:42,530 --> 00:56:39,780 thank you master very very fascinating 1396 00:56:44,329 --> 00:56:42,540 the master takes off and Bob is able to 1397 00:56:47,150 --> 00:56:44,339 talk to Lynn Airy for about half an hour 1398 00:56:48,650 --> 00:56:47,160 he says about nothing in particular 1399 00:56:51,069 --> 00:56:48,660 we got some more gushing about her 1400 00:56:53,990 --> 00:56:51,079 loveliness and soon it's time to leave 1401 00:56:58,010 --> 00:56:54,000 and she wants to come along on the ride 1402 00:57:03,109 --> 00:57:00,470 I was elated and they seemed honored by 1403 00:57:05,390 --> 00:57:03,119 her presence who wouldn't be soon we had 1404 00:57:07,130 --> 00:57:05,400 arrived back at the small ship it had 1405 00:57:07,970 --> 00:57:07,140 seemed like only moments since we left 1406 00:57:12,349 --> 00:57:07,980 it 1407 00:57:14,870 --> 00:57:12,359 reluctance leaving this wonderful place 1408 00:57:17,150 --> 00:57:14,880 was difficult at best we rode out to the 1409 00:57:19,430 --> 00:57:17,160 opening under the area four doors and up 1410 00:57:21,170 --> 00:57:19,440 we went scant seconds later we had 1411 00:57:22,910 --> 00:57:21,180 landed directly on the road in front of 1412 00:57:25,069 --> 00:57:22,920 Darren Sen's car 1413 00:57:27,109 --> 00:57:25,079 we all climbed out except or eval who 1414 00:57:29,390 --> 00:57:27,119 waited in the clearing for their return 1415 00:57:30,950 --> 00:57:29,400 on the way back Lynn Aries sat beside me 1416 00:57:33,770 --> 00:57:30,960 and we spoke of things pertinent to 1417 00:57:35,930 --> 00:57:33,780 Future contacts all too soon I was home 1418 00:57:37,190 --> 00:57:35,940 my folks had left for a while so we 1419 00:57:39,049 --> 00:57:37,200 drove right up 1420 00:57:41,569 --> 00:57:39,059 with a feeling of sadness welling up 1421 00:57:43,849 --> 00:57:41,579 inside I said farewell for a while to 1422 00:57:46,370 --> 00:57:43,859 these wonderful people from Beyond as 1423 00:57:51,740 --> 00:57:46,380 they drove out of sight part of me went 1424 00:57:51,750 --> 00:57:55,750 [Music] 1425 00:58:00,829 --> 00:57:58,609 we will return next time and continue 1426 00:58:02,930 --> 00:58:00,839 following Robert renaud's accounts of 1427 00:58:05,030 --> 00:58:02,940 his contacts are we seeing a love 1428 00:58:06,710 --> 00:58:05,040 connection Bloom with Lynn Airy are 1429 00:58:08,030 --> 00:58:06,720 there more underground bases around the 1430 00:58:10,309 --> 00:58:08,040 United States 1431 00:58:11,930 --> 00:58:10,319 tune in and we'll answer all of these 1432 00:58:13,609 --> 00:58:11,940 questions and more and thanks for 1433 00:58:15,170 --> 00:58:13,619 listening remember to send in your 1434 00:58:17,390 --> 00:58:15,180 questions and comments via the usual 1435 00:58:19,549 --> 00:58:17,400 social media or email channels and we'll 1436 00:58:21,470 --> 00:58:19,559 be addressing those next time our 1437 00:58:23,690 --> 00:58:21,480 associate producer is Simpson J Hanover 1438 00:58:27,470 --> 00:58:23,700 III the saucer life is a production of 1439 00:58:28,609 --> 00:58:27,480 chiso media LLC chiso media our heart is 1440 00:58:30,950 --> 00:58:28,619 with the people